If You Don't Believe in Just War Theory, What is Your Alternative?

BTW - I'm not buying into your homework assignments.

If you want an answer to this question you will have to first list out all of the wars since 1860.

Sidebar - why did you pick that particular year? Is it the year that you were born? :tonofbricks:

 

Just as I suspected. You refuse to answer a simple question.

If you refuse to answer questions you should not be so insistent in asking questions of others.

So, let's try again. You pick the year and the wars. Which ones do you consider just and which unjust?

 

You have it backwards.

You dropped out of the other thread when asked to explain your contradictions of - Jesus did not advocate war - there is such a thing as a just war.

Explain how you can hold those two opposing beliefs.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1587736&postcount=83

Then we can advance the discussion.

 

There you go again. Trying to avoid answering a question by trying to throw this one off the subject.

You stated you believe in the Just War Theory. So, what wars do you believe were just and which unjust.

Please answer and stay on the topic of this thread.

 

You were the first one to bring up the Just War threory in the other thread - after you stated over and over the Jesus did not advocate war.

When challenged on that contradiction you bailed - as usual.

Before getting into any discussion with you on Just War - you are first going to have to reconcile your contradictions.

Until you do so there is no point is discussing it with you.

To refresh your memory... http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1587736&postcount=83

Everyone can see what you are doing here.

 

Don't you understand, he wants you to do what he won't do.

 

I understand well enough.

Crabby dodges questions with more questions.

And when he is really backed into a corner - he hands out homework assignments.

 

And when that fails, he just fades off into the left wing twilight.

 

If you go back and look I have answered many of your questions ... you have answered almost none of mine. But you often blow smoke and attempt to change the subject ... just as you have been doing the last few entries.

Now, you said that you believe there are just wars. Let's make it easier for you. Which wars do you believe were just?


Tom, do you believe some wars are just and some are unjust?

 

Again you are trying to change the subject and ... like almost always not answer a question. What wars do you believe were just wars? You made the statement that you believe in the Just War Theory ... so you must believe some were just and unjust. Well, which ones were which?

 

People are foolish to engage C.T.Boy in discussions. C.T.Boy, you left several questions unanswered, and it is childish and dishonest to appear here and pretend you didn't.

I have a question for the "Jesus was a pacifist" crowd. Say there's a thug beating up an old man. Is the peace maker the guy who begs him to stop, and repeats the teachings of Jesus, or is the peace maker the guy who takes his baseball bat and lays out the thug ?

I go for the latter, and always will.

 

Yes, I believe there are wars that are just and some that are unjust. I fought in one (Viet Nam) you consider unjust. My grandfather fought in WW 1 which you thot was unjust so i just seem to come from a family of murderers who killed unjustly. Both of these wars I consider to be just. But not because of family considerations but because they were right to fight.

I also believe the Civil War was just as was the Spanish American War, WW 2, Korea, the first gulf war, Iraq and Afghanistan. So to answer your question, I believe there are wars that are just and some that are unjust. Maybe Grenada was the unjust one... but that just lasted 3 days, so we weren't unjust for long.

With this, I am finished. There will be no home work assignments and no calling into question whether you really follow Jesus or not. You won't do the homework. And I am not the Acme Judgement Company determining whether you follow Jesus.

 

There is no change of topic on my part.

Before discussing Just War - you need to pick a position and then stick with it.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1587736&postcount=83

 

Situational ethics. You can always create hypothetical situations that on the surface seem totally one way or the other.

Can you think of any situation in the life of Jesus that might address such a situation?

 

Getting late here. I'm going to bed.

So you believe in there are just and unjust wars, but cannot or will not say which you believe were just or unjust. OK.

Good night.

 

Now you are mixing topics. I have not said that a person being loyal to their country is a murder if they fight for their country in an unjust war. That is another topic. In fact, an interesting topic. One I will have to think about.

In your opinion, what makes them just?

 

And you believe... http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1587736&postcount=83 ...too many contradicitons to list here. Link provided for sake of brevity.

You have no standing in this discussion until you explain your contradictions.

 

This is Crabby making a U-turn again.

In the other thread he stated that there are just wars - now he calls it situational ethics.

 

As soon as you answer the questions you left. Until then, I'll assume you have no answers. I stand on what I said.

 

Crabby seems to be confused as to the topic of this thread which is...

"If You Don't Believe in Just War Theory, What is Your Alternative?"

So far everyone participating has expressed an acceptance of the Just War Theory...

Except for Crabby who wants to take all sides - or none - as usual.

Has anyone figured out what Crabby's position is on a Just War Theory.

I know that I haven't - other than Crabby believes himself to be morally superior to the rest of us.