"If you truly trusted the Lord, you would have no fears"

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  1. Spinach

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    True or false?
     
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    Can you define what you mean by "fears"?
     
  3. Spinach

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    I didn't make the statement so I don't know. I assume it would be any fear outside the fear of the Lord.
     
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    I'd say false. Fear is a natural emotion. If you changed it to fear induced panic, I might agree.

    Courage is not the absence of fear. Courage is doing what is necesary in the face of fear.
     
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    I say it's false and I agree with what Tom wrote.
     
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    False. Fear is an emotion given to us by God. It is to protect us from dangerous situations. I have had God use fear to move me out of situations that were dangerous.
     
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    False also. Fear is only a sin if it keeps you from doing God's will. You can be afraid to do God's will but still follow Him in obedience.
     
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    I Fear Being Wrong in Answering this Question....

    ... :laugh: actually, I couldn't agree more with the above comments. Fear is a good thing. It is only bad when is puts a person into state of spiritual paralysis.

    Pastor Paul
     
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    I'm afraid that I have nothing to add to what the other folks have said.
     
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    God didn't give us fear. Paul says God hath not given us the spirit of fear. Now fear is a natural emotion, but that doesn't mean fear is ok. Even while trusting in the Lord we may have moments of fear. Abram was walking by faith after the Lord but still feared the Egyptians and so had Sarai say she was his sister but not his wife. That was a move motivated by fear and self preservation, both natural emotions, but we know Abram should have instead trusted in God to preserve his life from the Egyptians. Abraham, who was a better man than I'll ever be, still had moments where fear gripped him. That tells me I will to, and experience says I have. However, I should, instead of giving in to fear and letting it drive my actions, trust in the Lord and let that guide my actions.
     
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    False, Jesus feared going to the cross, so much so, he sweated blood, and asked His Father if there was another way...

    And NO one has ever trusted God more than Jesus.

    Trusting God is acting in His will, in spite of our fears.
     
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    Jesus didn't fear going to the cross, and He didn't ask the Father if there was another way.
     
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    Well, I don't know if fear is the right word, but he certainly didn't relish what was about to happen to him, and he did ask if it were possible that he might not go through it.

    Matt 26:39 And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
     
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    What about 1 John 4:18? "There is no fear in love, but perfect love casteth out all fear, because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love."

    While it is good to be mindful of certain things that are harmful to us, we have no reason to be afraid when we are in Christ and living in God's love.
     
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    I agree. You can have fear and yet trust. I imagine the first time any person parachutes out of an airplane there is some fear, but a person chooses to trust their training and equipment and jumps anyway.
     
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    He also said this, "Now is my soul troubled: and what shall I say? Father save me from this hou: but for this cause came I unto this hou."

    Obviously, Jesus wasn't asking to be spared. He wasn't in fear, He was troubled. His soul was exceeding sorrowful, even unto death. But He didn't ask to be spared from His sufferings, He asked for the cup to pass from Him. In other words, let there be an end to this.
     
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    We are commanded to have fear...

    Luke 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

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    I hate to be the one to point this out...and open another can of worms, but Jesus was not "fearing" the cross. He was fearing His Father's wrath and the inevitable separation from the Father becoming sin would necessitate. Would those things happen on the cross? Sure. But it was not the cross itself that He "feared."

    A relationship--Jesus and the Father--that had been perfect in unity and fellowship was about to be no more. While it was for a relatively short time (in terms of eternity) Jesus was separated from the Father as God's wrath poured out on Him and the Trinity was reduced to two.

    So, the exceeding sorrow was not for the cross necessarily, it was for being the object of God's wrath and it was for the looming separation from the Father for the first and only time in all eternity.

    Blessings,

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    Remember that Jesus said, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" What He feared was not so much the cross or the sacrifice He must make, but He feared the Father turning His back on Him--even temporarily. After all, Jesus took the sins of the whole world on Himself
     
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    I agree, when I said "The cross".. I meant the event and ALL that the cross meant to the Savior of the World... not just the wood, and physical pain.
     

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