IFB's and Repentance

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  1. christianyouth

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    I stumbled upon this article by David Cloud and thought it was very insightful into how IFB's have traditionally understood the doctrine of repentance. He shows that John R. Rice, J. Frank Norris, Lester Roloff, and other great men of God from the IFB movement believed in repentance and were avidly against the easy believism and salesman like evangelism that we are all too familiar with.




    http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/fundamentalbaptists.htm


    After you read, discuss.

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    And again I have to eat crow!
    I have never agreed with David Cloud until now.

    Very Good article.

    We have been discussing this very thing on Sunday Evenings.
    The prayer doesn't save a person... Christ does.
     
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    What men may say, even men I may perceive to be significant men, should not be the weight of value as to whether something is true or not. Many a so-called great man has said his share of foolish things as well many a foolish man has had a great thought from time to time.

    Every doctrine of every kind within Christianity has a line of familiar and favorite preachers, pastors, teachers and theologians. So simply naming a few of the men standing in the line you consider the "right" line only produces others with their own list of allegedly credible men teaching otherwise.

    What is important, truly, is not what they say but what does the Bible teach.
     
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    Nutritious!

    Crow tastes horrible but it is very nutritious and good for one's character. I recommend it to be included in every diet, although not as steady fare. :laugh:
     
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    Missed point?

    Sir, did you miss the point? I believe the point was that IFB's, who are often accused of teaching "easy believism," do in fact believe and teach repentance, a definite Biblical teaching. The necessity for repentance was not validated by who believed it but the point was that these aforementioned men DID believe and preach repentance.
     
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    And something has changed over time...

    And I beleive he nailed it... the definition of repentance.
     
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    What man says is also important, unless you don't believe what the Bible says... well, even if you don't believe what the Bible says, what man says is still important.

    For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (Romans 10:10)
     
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    Paul told Timothy, "But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;" II Tim. 3:14 (emphasis mine)

    Isn't it interesting that Paul thought Timothy ought to learn things from men also. Are we to learn of men who we believe the Lord brings into our lives and we believe they are true to the Word? OR......are we to be Mavericks?

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    I am not familiar with all of the men cited by Mr. Cloud. However, from those I do know, other than David Benedict, I assume they are all BBF men whose personal or ancesteral roots are in the Southern Baptist Convention.

    This is not a slam on these men. However, the usage of IFB in this article ignors the vast number of men and churches whose roots are in the Northern Baptist, the old German and Swedish Baptist Conventions.
     

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