Ike's Not So Famous Second Warning

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  1. kyredneck

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    "... Shepard Smith recalled the anniversary of President Eisenhower’s famous 1961 farewell address to the nation, but he only mentioned one of Ike’s threat warnings, the one that reminded us to beware of the “Military Industrial Complex.”....

    ....Ike’s second warning: “…that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.” Does anything come immediately to mind when you read that? Ike goes on, “…Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity.” And, “The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.”....

    ....Do you think Ike was warning us that politicians like Al Gore and Barack Obama could cuddle with the scientific technological elite alike and, oh, I don’t know, maybe get behind Obama’s plan to tax your breath? Do you think that perhaps some time in the near future you might not be considered a person but a carbon footprint … does something like that sound ridiculous?....

    ....Have you seen how fast Obama has placed environmental academic hysterics and socialists in positions of real power? Steven Chu, John Holdren, Carol Browner and others are there to see to it that every exhaust in your life is a financial event favorable to the government. So how is it that one of Ike’s warnings became famous and the other a historical ghost note?....

    ....It’s really not hard to grasp. Our educational institutions monitor and control historical information and also educate and train the future guardians of public discourse — the indispensable journalists we read, see, and hear every day. By definition both the media and our nation’s scholars digest information and parcel it out in what should be an honest and thoughtful way. They digested Ike’s warning about the military and saw fit to warn us 10 billion times that the military is bad and needs to be feared and pushed off campus. They digested Ike’s warning about universities, scholars, federal money, science and policy, then gave it to Helen Thomas to scatter on some hot house tomatoes in the Nevada desert. It doesn’t get any simpler.

    Think about this: How many times have you heard that the debate over anthropogenic global warming has ended? When and where was this debate? The mere recitation of the words, “the debate has ended” closed the discussion without you having ever heard it because, get it! It’s ended! Get It! Neat trick! Gore says the debate has ended….McCain says the debate has endedObama says the debate has endedHanson says the debate has ended, and no one in the media wants to ask, “What debate?” When? Where? Was there a scientific or political debate… or, God forbid, both, and who was for and who was against?....

    ...Gore’s film “An Inconvenient Truth,” has by now been proven to be almost a 100% big fat lie, and yet there is no media outcry against it or price for Gore to pay because he is supporting the scientific technological elite who want to hold public policy captive to the carbon tax that Socialists and Democrats have wanted since the 1992 Rio summit.....

    ....This is a clear example of years of liberal bias in protective favor of the university media structure. It just takes a lot of repetition and a strong ideological preference for saying: American military bad! American university good! CO2 bad! Tax our breath! Raise the tuition! Kick the Marines off campus! Long live man made global warming and the tax dollars we shall inherit from it. STING shall be our band and “Every Breath You Take” shall be our song … revenue streams for eternity.....

    ...Repeat after me this slogan … or, if you would rather stick this on the backside of your transportation vehicle , please do and remember, paying higher taxes is patriotic, so breathe baby, breathe for your country, just don’t breathe behind our back and not let us see you, ’cause we’re talk’n money now, baby! The debate has ended!....
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2009/02/20/ikes-not-so-famous-second-warning/
     
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    Fox's token leftist, Shepherd Smith, would never mention that!
     
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    Ike was a lot smarter than he is given credit for.

    Figures. The same people that foisted the global warming hoax on us control the historical narrative.

    So Ike will remain just another dumb Republican.:BangHead:
     
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    When considering "public policy could become the captive of the scientific-technological elite" and "the domination of the nation's scholars by the Federal government", first thing I thought of was Reagan's SDI program.
     
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    Good ole Ike. He was one crazy conspiracy theorist wasn't he?
     
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    More prophetic then conspiracist.
     
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    Probably some 'overlap' there into other warnings from his farewell address:

    ....that the nation guard against the potential influence of the military–industrial complex...

    ...the dangers of massive spending, especially deficit spending...

    ...the domination of science through Federal funding...

    ...the domination of science-based public policy by what he called a "scientific-technological elite"....

    Eisenhower's farewell address
     
  8. The American Dream

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    Yes he was a master of picking his VP.
     
  9. poncho

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    Maybe it's more a matter of being a student of history and understanding how "allowing the consolidation of power into a few hands is dangerous to liberty".

    Now that is truly a statement only a crazed conspiracy theorist with absolutely no evidence to support it would make!

    I know I've made it a thousand times in one fashion or another here. And I'm the original "crazed conspiracy theorist" on the board, democratically elected and duly sworn in by the self appointed Baptist Board majority of five but sometimes as many as seven.

    Cue the monkeys!
     
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    Yep. Turned out to be a pretty good choice.
     
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    You mean the right wingnuts, right? I think there's more than a hand full of those around here.
     
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    You're probably right but I only hear from about five, six or seven of them on a regular basis.

    They're easy to recognize because they're the ones always reminding me that my "Baptist Board credibility" is always and forever in question because my views are usually outside of and/or in conflict with the corporate sponsored "mainstream" consensus.

    Evidently not adopting the corporate sponsored "meme of the week" is a troubling sign of non conformity to people (Christians) who shouldn't be so comfortable "conforming" to this world anyway.

    Know what I mean?
     
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    I'm a 'conspiracy theorist' also; the grand conspirator being Satan himself with all other conspirators unwittingly doing his bidding.

    I wouldn't be surprised that if 'the thousand years' may be finished already, that Satan has been loosed, the nations are being deceived, and the camp of the Saints is slowly being encompassed now. But that's just my humble opinion.
     
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    There does seem to be an observable amount of evidence to support that theory.
     
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    Another example of the federal money/science connection is the subsidy of evolution in the universities and public schools. After Sputnik, Ike casually mentioned that evolution should be studied and with the influx of federal funds evolution has not become the bully of the public education world.
     

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