Illegal Aliens Declare War on the United States

They tend to lead you around in circles alot here don't they?

 

The way I see it, if you ain't legal, you have no rights. At least not as a citizen would.

Call me heartless, but any who are here illegally, meaning that they did not come through the channels laid out in the laws of the United States, have absolutley NO RIGHT to be here or to remain here. Period, end of story.

While I wholeheartedly agree with deportation, I think that the ones being deported should have to earn the money to pay for it. There are lots of roadsides that need picked up, lots of federally owned property that needs maintaining. Once they have built up what it will cost, ship 'em out.

I am also a supporter of putting a fence between the US and Mexico. My version would be two fences, though... both 30+ feet tall, 20+ feet wide, with at least one hundred yards between them. Put border agents atop the inside wall, arm them, and tell them if it moves... well, I wouldn't go with the last part unless they were under threat or someone wouldn't stop.

We've pansied around and catered to the lawbreakers for far too long.

 

Well, the Constitution does see it differently.

 

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source
coun·try /Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhn-tree]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciationnoun, plural -tries, adjective –noun 1.a state or nation: What European countries have you visited? 2.the territory of a nation. 3.the people of a district, state, or nation: The whole country backed the president in his decision. 4.the land of one's birth or citizenship. 5.rural districts, including farmland, parkland, and other sparsely populated areas, as opposed to cities or towns: Many city dwellers like to spend their vacations in the country. 6.any considerable territory demarcated by topographical conditions, by a distinctive population, etc.: mountainous country; the Amish country of Pennsylvania. 7.a tract of land considered apart from any geographical or political limits; region; district. 8.the public. 9.Law. the public at large, as represented by a jury. 10.country music. –adjective 11.of, from, or characteristic of the country; rural: a winding country road. 12.of, pertaining to, or associated with country music: That Nashville station plays country records all day long. 13.rude; unpolished; rustic: country manners. 14.of, from, or pertaining to a particular country. 15.Obsolete. of one's own country. —Idioms 16.go to the country, British. to dissolve a Parliament that has cast a majority vote disagreeing with the prime minister and cabinet and to call for the election of a new House of Commons. Also, appeal to the country. 17.put oneself upon the or one's country, Law. to present one's cause formally before a jury.
[Origin: 1200–50; ME cuntree < AF, OF < VL *(regiō) contrāta terrain opposite the viewer, equiv. to L contr(ā) counter3 + -āta, fem. of -ātus -ate1; cf. G Gegend region, deriv. of gegen against]

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In speaking of political theorists to fail to realize that a country is both its people and the land on which they live may be a result of much learning and over thinking.

 

What portion of the Constitution sees it differently?

 

With the exception of qualifiers for voting, holding office, etc., most rights listed are human rights, not citizens rights. Even those here illegally are recognized to have basic rights listed in the Bill of Rights.

 

What in our constitution compels us to allow them to come here to recieve these rights?

 

Simply because a term can be used to describe more than one thing does not mean that they are the same thing. And dictionaries summarize how a word is used in the vernacular, not necessarily the technical nuances of concepts.

 

So do you think it is a legitimate line of reasoning to seperate the people from the country in light of the words common use and understanding through out its history.

 

1. I don't care about a word's common use, I care about thoughtful, reasonable definitions by people who know what they're talking about. People use words poorly all of the time.

2. Interpreting "country" in the sense of "state" is the only way your previous statements about granting rights make sense. The "land" does not grant rights or make public policy decisions.

 

Are you suggesting that only unreasoned thought and ignorant people have ever thought that country includes land boundries?

But it is the source of many rights. For example anyone born in this country has the right to be a citizen. Is this something you have a problem with?

 

No, I'm saying that I'm not interested in how the unreasoned and ignorant people use the term.

Yep. Citizenship should be based on parental heritage and geography, not just birth location.

 

Are you suggesting that to use the word country in the context of both people and land is unreasoned and ignorant?

How is this germain to illegal imigration

 

No. It might very well be so, but I was suggesting nothing more than exactly what I said.

You asked me a specific question and I answered it. Your question contained nothing on illegal immigration.


Regardless, it's very relevant indeed, in the case of children being born in America to illegal immigrants.

 

There is no reason to answer a question in this thread in any other context other than ilegal immigration sionce that is the topic of this thread.

 

Mr

Here are some BUMS described in the Bible.

Mar 6:7 And he called [unto him] the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
Mar 6:8 And commanded them that they should take nothing for [their] journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in [their] purse:
Mar 6:9 But [be] shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
Mar 6:10 And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
Mar 6:11 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Mar 6:12 And they went out, and preached that men should repent.