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"I'm So Excited!"

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Rippon, Feb 22, 2009.

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  1. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    "I just received my new ESV Bible! All I've had has been my old NASB -- not the updated one.I love the cover of my new ESV! I love the blue cover.I love the lettering.I love the feel of it in my hands."

    Thus spoke a western woman at my church on Sunday.Someone had personally delivered this translation to her direct from America.

    So I said"You're very excited.I'll bet you can't wait to begin reading it."She replied:"I'm not much of a reader.Besides,I'll be very busy for the next two weeks."My response:"Huh?"
     
    #1 Rippon, Feb 22, 2009
  2. mcdirector

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    LOL!

    Maybe she'll read it anyway. (After the two weeks is up . . .)
     
    #2 mcdirector, Feb 23, 2009
  3. Rippon

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    Maybe -- let's be optimistic.
     
    #3 Rippon, Feb 23, 2009
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    Maybe she's thinking it would make a nice table ornament??

    Too bad. There's a lot of great stuff in the Word of God....
     
    #4 annsni, Feb 23, 2009
  5. franklinmonroe

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    It figures (those silly, crazy westerners)!
     
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  6. EdSutton

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    It would appear some have a much lower threshold of excitement than do others. :rolleyes:

    Ed
     
    #6 EdSutton, Feb 24, 2009
  7. AntennaFarmer

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    Maybe she was NASBO and wanted to say something nice about the gift (?)........


    NASBO=New American Standard Bible - Only
     
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  8. Rippon

    Rippon Well-Known Member
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    No,she was waiting especially for this ESV edition.
     
    #8 Rippon, Feb 25, 2009
  9. Rippon

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    Update

    This just in -- I asked Sunday if she had gotten around to reading her new ESV Bible.She said she had not,and didn't intend to.She said she had made it perfectly clear to me the last time that she bought for the cover only.She will display it on one of her shelves. She prefers reading her pre-1995 NASB.(I didn't ask how often.)

    I'm glad that the TNIV doesn't have covers as beautiful as the ESV has.Maybe some folks like her wouldn't buy it for the contents.
     
    #9 Rippon, Mar 8, 2009
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    Do me a favor and look up Mathhew 18:11 and tell me what it says in the ESV.

    AJ
     
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  11. Rippon

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    You could have looked it up.I don't carry an ESV with me.It's not a favorite translation of mine.
     
    #11 Rippon, Mar 8, 2009
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    I cant look it up, I dont own an ESV.

    AJ
     
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    I just looked up Matt. 18:11 in the ESV.......it's not there. It goes from 18:10 to 18:12



    ESV

    10"See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven. 12 What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them has gone astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine on the mountains and go in search of the one that went astray?




    NKJV




    10 “Take heed that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I say to you that in heaven their angels always see the face of My Father who is in heaven. 11 For the Son of Man has come to save that which was lost.
    12 “What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?
     
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    That was the point I was trying to make. There are other examples of missing verses in several of the modern versions. Many argue that the ommison of certain verses is correct....

    AJ
     
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    OH NO! I just checked a KJV. They added a verse between Matt 18:10 and Matt 18:12! GASP
     
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    Wait a sec Tom???? If there is nothing between 18:10 and 18:12, doesnt it sound logical that 18:11 goes there?:laugh:

    AJ
     
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    Seems like you and I agree, but that's not gonna be a real popular opinion on this forum! :godisgood:
     
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    One thing that is important to note is that verses are not part of the original text of scripture so that every verse division is a addition to every translation in which they appear, which is all english translations I know of.

    Most newer translations of course use the same verse divisions as older ones such as the KJV so that if there is a textual variant that is an entire verse, they can either renumber all subsequent verses or just skip that number.
     
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  19. Dale-c

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    Ok, the fact is that there is a variation here.

    Was in omitted from the ESV or was it inserted into the KJV?
    The danger here is when you make a translation your standard of what the original said.
     
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    Does the rule of first reference apply to Bible translations? LOL

    Seriously, I use modern translations to help me study the KJV, but I personally use the text of the KJV as the final authority if there is a difference of doctrine/translation.

    I actually visited a church last month that used ESV as their primary text, they taught from it in the pulpit, and all of the pew Bibles were ESV, so it must be really growing in popularity.

    The only one that I just absolutely wont open up or have in my house is "The Message" but that is another topic for another thread.

    AJ
     
    #20 ajg1959, Mar 9, 2009
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