Immigrants ravage U.S. infrastructure

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  1. Revmitchell

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    The United States will need $1.6 trillion to repair damage to its infrastructure from a massive influx of immigrants, a new report reveals.

    In his report titled, "The Twin Crises: Immigration and Infrastructure," prominent researcher Edwin S. Rubenstein examines 15 categories of infrastructure airports, border security, bridges, dams and levees, electricity (the power grids), hazardous waste removal hospitals, mass transit, parks and recreation facilities, ports and navigable waterways, public schools, railroads, roads and highways, solid waste and trash, and water and sewer systems.

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    http://www.thesocialcontract.com/docs/tsc_twin_crises_rubenstein_2009jan12.pdf

    (I thought I was the only social contract guy around here).

    The argument is that without immigration there would be plenty of tax money available to fix stuff. Pure Bull Pippy! No need to read past the the "aviation" section. The aviation infrastructure began to fall apart with the dereg of the scheduled airlines. You all want cheap airline tickets? Poor service is the trade off. Just like cheap everything else. Americans want Best Western service for Motel 6 prices. Don't blame that on immigration.
     
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    I have been saying for years that Bush needs to tighten the borders.. Other here on this board have been saying it also... So why does it surprise us to learn of this news?

    Until someone closes our borders we will always have this price tag to pay, we will always be at risk and will always deserve anything we get...

    Jamie
     
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    Looky there we agree!:thumbs:
     
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    I knew if I stayed around and continued to trade posts with you we would get there!! :) Let's make it our year news resolution to have this happen at least one more time before the end of the year.

    Hope things are well...

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    I resolve to agree with Jamie one more time before the year ends at a minimum.
     
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    Closing borders works both ways. Do you know how much money Canadians contribute to say Florida's economy for six months of each year? Some own property and pay taxes as they make great purchases. They live there and use restaurants, picture houses, golf courses, beach facilties and a host of other businesses.

    My daughter is an immigrant and now US citizen. She practices medicine in Georgia and pays healthy taxes on her income. She spends her monies in Georgia, and further contributes to the health care needs of its citizens.

    We must always remember that we were all immigrants at one point in the Americas history. Immigrants often do jobs that the average America will not do, even though some of those immigrants are educated beyond the average citizen.

    I don't think a nation can fault immigrants per se. Our own Brother Barnabas is an immigrant. He is a director of this BaptistBoard. He not only worked and contributed to the tax base, he also served abroad in the US military. I am sure there are others that fit that bill.

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    It is not about closing borders. It is about going through channels and not sneaking across borders illegally without documentation. Big difference.
     
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    Again, until 9/11, Canadians and Americans enjoyed a relatively open border between us. Since 9/11 the border as been a literal hellish experience and this has greatly affected the American economy around Watertown, NY. Perhaps one should be specific about what border one is talking about and at what point the governments should stiffen entry.

    Canada and the USA have been the best neighbours for many years and without difficlty....6000 miles of an unguarded border. We just can't generalize.

    The USA for instance is now in the process of producing a driver's licence with the required photo and information to ease border passage. That is a clever government, and that is how we should act with friends.

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    Cheers,

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    No disrespect meant but those are rather petty issues especially in light of recent circumstances. It seems such a good friend would understand unless there was another agenda.
     
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    Hey Jim,

    While I understand your point about Canada and the US, but I firmly believe that ALL borders should be locked down so we know who is crossing over.

    I live near the Canadian border and don't want anyone to cross over from there or any other border without us knowing who they are.

    In this day and age, it would just be crazy to do otherwise... friend or foe...

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    I guess we will need to take down Lady Liberty then?

    I am glad those words were there when my ancestors were immigrants.
     
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    In Nazi Germany everything bad was the Jews fault.

    In Eastern Europe everything bad is the fault of the gypsies, the Romas.

    In Rawands everything bad was the Tutsi's fault.

    So, now in the US everything bad is the fault of the immigrants.

    This is stage one of hate talk that can lead to .... well very bad things.
     
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    Shucks, if they had had this border tightness back in the days of prohibition, the Kennedy clan would be broke with their rum running shut down!

    I know a lot in my area are not heading off to Florida these days. A passport is too expensive just to cross a border. Remember, we do have checkpoints. No problem with that, but a passport is just a money grab.

    By the way, the borders didn't stop our people when 9/11 happened. We had workers drop what they were dong and dash to NY to help. Some even took company vehicles to get there.

    Want to cut us off? That is ok. We can stay home and spend our monies in Canada. With a passport, we can go off to the UK and Europe and so many other countries, including Mexico and South America or even Cuba, where they love Canadians.

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    So who wants to cut you off?
     
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    Not once, did I suggest I wanted to bar any and everyone from entry. What I am looking for in a accountable system to know who is coming and going.

    The Canadian/US border is a great example. You need a passport and have to go through a check point.

    What is so wrong with that?

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    Jim, no one is saying we would want to lock you or anyone out. But whether you agree or not, having a system in pace like we have on your border vers the un-monitored border of Mexico is better for our country.

    It's not, and has never been about 'keeping the good people out' it's about being able to see who is coming and going...

    Would you drive with someone without a driver license? Would you take a flight if you knew the pilot didn't have a license? I wouldn't...

    I like knowing that my pilot is certificated and licensed to fly. They didn't do it because they could get moneys from his fees and licenses.. They did it because of a system in place to show he is capable of flying.

    Our borders should be protected and if that means people like yourself won't be coming over to visit, I am ok with that. No disrespect meaning, but we need to secure our borders.


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    Paranoia! PLain and simple.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Paranoia! PLain and simple.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Paranoia! PLain and simple.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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