IN light of the current financial crisis do you agree?

Revmitchell--

Could you clarify for me what exactly you are asking us to vote to agree or disagree with in this poll?

Are you asking us to agree/disagree with the actions that the Federal Reserve has recently taken?

Are you asking us whether or not Congress acted unconstitutionally when it ceded its authority to coin/print money when it passed the Federal Reserve Act?

Or are you asking us simply whether or not we agree with the statement by Chuck Baldwin in your OP?

If you would kindly elaborate on what precisely you are asking us to agree/disagree about in your poll, that might help me decide which option to choose.

Thanks, brother.

 

Revmitchell,

I am not sure what your point of question on polls of finanical crisis. I think you need to define the question more clarify what thing we can agree, or not agree with them. Can you please edit the polls, so we can understand your questions better. Thanks.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!

 

Thanks! :thumbs:

I now understand that you are asking us to to either agree or disagree with the statement made by Chuck Baldwin.

 

This is a trick question isn't it Rev?

If we agree then we're quilty of being a traitor to the Bush/Goldman Sachs team and/or the Obama/Chase Manhatten team and will forever have to live with the guilt that "we" are the ones responsible for the sudden failure of our banking system and therefore the horrible suffering "we" brought down on our fellow American and global citizens.

If we disagree then we're idiots because not only have we've let the "money trust" enslave us with debt and take control of our government we are actively helping them to enslave our children and grandchildren with debt.

 

The US govt holds about one ounce per capita, 4 oz per family. The median pay is around $50,000/family. If every person was paid in gold once a month then what would be the minimum price of gold?

 

Do you realize how much gold it would take to back just the currency in circulation? What do you think would happen to the price of gold if we suddenly had to go into the market and buy the gold necessary to back the currency in circulation? This is impossible.

poncho, with respect to Chase Manhattan, that bank has not existed for years. Chemical Bank took over Chase, and kept their name. They were then purchased by JP Morgan. JP Morgan Chase is actually a combination of several money center banks.

Goldman Sachs just received $5 Billion from Warren Buffet, who is supposedly advising the Obama campaign.

Regards,
BiR

 

Who said anything about backing the currency in circulation? I'm all about letting the bankers drown in their debt creating reserve notes and starting over with sound money...the constitutional way. Chase Manhatten, JP Morgan...what's the difference the only thing either of them create is debt, debt and more debt.

And both of these "candidates" pretending to be on opposite sides of the political spectrum are apparently indebted to these central bankers and would fight to keep them afloat at our expense. This isn't about left vs right...this about the state wanting to keep the creature from Jekyll Island alive and eating out our substance.

 

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So what happens to all of those people holding the currency in circulation? Are you suggesting that we should just erase the value that is held in that currency? I know that you don't accept that it holds value, but you cannot deny that the overwhelming majority of Americans have their net worth in those "reserve notes."

Actually, I have read part of that book. Regardless of whether or not you like the FRB, the simple fact is that it's been in place for almost 100 years.

Regards,
BiR

 

So can we say the experiment failed, yet ? Or give it another 100 years ?

 

They lose don't they? But they lose anyway just by holding the currency.

No BIR, I'm suggesting that's already happening. The more fiat currency in circulation the less it's worth. The value of the currency is already being erased.

It doesn't hold value period it has nothing to do with what I accept or not. I won't deny people are going lose, they are. Not because I don't agree with a fiat monetary system but because the system itself isn't sustainable.

And why is that do you suppose BIR? Because it's a sound system and makes us all prosperous or because it's a great way for the elite to transfer wealth from the many to the few?

 

If the government wanted to, they could repuderate the debt. Then start over fresh.
I've never heard any politician make that starement though.

 

Gut feeling is that the government could confiscate private gold as it did several years ago.

 

Actually we're in pretty good shape if things get really bad. We got a nice big militarized police force and Blackwater "contractor" mercenaries to protect us from civil unrest.

Signed,

The government and bankers.

Govcorp Inc. Taking care of your wealth since 1913.

 

Not in the way they would if we simply wipe out all the federal reserve notes.

That is a direct result of the policies of the current Administration and the people they have installed.

It does hold value, as long as it's accepted for payment.

You're too late, poncho.

Hope all is well,
BiR