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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Jedi Knight, Feb 6, 2014.

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Do you believe in a young Earth?

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  1. Jedi Knight

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    Did God create it all in 6-24hr days? Seems simple enough.
     
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    That's what it says. It even gives the parameters. Evening came first.
    evening and morning make a day. Etc.
     
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    I'm not a science guy, by any stretch of the imagination.

    So, when reading the account, God created light first, and separated light from dark. This, in my mind, is the setting of the sun, and the earth's rotation and such. Much more than that in the first two verses, for sure, but those seem to be the primary focus. Light and dark on the earth are only relative to the earth's spinning on its axis

    And each day was specifically mentioned as evening and morning which are relative to the earth's rotation and the sun shining on half of it.

    Why make any mention of evening and morning, light and dark unless the earth was spinning? And 24 hours is simply the duration of time it takes for the earth to spin one time.

    So I would say that unless God sped up the rotation of the earth exponentially after creation, then it would be 6-24 hour days.

    I got nothin' beyond that. I wasn't there, so I simply take God at His word
     
  4. humblethinker

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    I don't think that a modernist interpretation of Genesis 1 is required or compelling. You may want to check out John Walton's book _The Lost World of Genesis One: Ancient Cosmology and the Origins Debate_ for insight as to how the ancients viewed cosmology for a better understanding of the historical and cultural context.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0830837043
     
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    I think the information and data is compelling for an OE and OU. I also think it is incorrect for the evangelical community to exclude such from the debate of origins.

    As a primer read on the issues, I suggest:

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BUWG650/?tag=baptis04-20
     
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    I believe the creation of the universe to be in 1:1... no time amount given for that.

    I believe the garden of Eden, a place for God to dwell with his people, was the 7 day stuff going on in 1:2ff. It was not creation but preparation.

    So I would argue that the Bible does not speak of the age of the earth, whether young or old.

    For more on this increasingly popular view: http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/science-the-bible-and-the-promised-land
     
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    The Earth is 6,240 years old. The timeline is laid out, from Adam to the carrying away. Secular history meets us there, with ample evidence.
    You either believe, or remain in unbelief.
     
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    LOL! LOL! LOL! I am holding my stomach --it hurts so much to laugh this hard.
     
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    Can't you be more precise? I mean come on. Break it down to the months,weeks,days and hours also.
     
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    ^^^ The Haarsma's (both husband and wife, both w PhDs in relevant fields) have some great lectures on YouTube as well. I highly recommend their book that QF shared above.
     
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    Why do you find this amusing? Is that a mockery of the Creation story? Either one believes the Bible not. Since you find his statement funny, how old do you think the earth is, and Who do you think created it?
     
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    It is self-evident.
    Silly boy.
    Believing the Bible has absolutely nothing to do with claiming the earth is exactly a certain number of years of age. In your more reflective moments you would hopefully agree.
    One of your classiest comments Mike.
     
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    It is a reasonable question. When one makes a joke out of a Biblically sound post on Creation, it begs the question? Now, how old do you think the earth is and Who created it?
     
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    Waiting........................
     
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    I see feathers...I believe they came from a DUCK.
     
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    The claim was that the earth is exactly 6,240 years old. He says with earnestness :"You either believe or remain in unbelief." Now if someone thinks it is younger or older than his figure --then they "remain in unbelief." Are you a believer or not according to his criteria?
     
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    I will choose to remain in "unbelief" of YOUR position on the issue. But respectfully so regardless of any "sneers" or charges of H....... etc.
     
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    Gen 5:3
    3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
     
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    Ah, good ol fideism! It'll resolve any and all cognitive dissonance.

    Here's a good summary: http://biologos.org/questions/early-interpretations-of-genesis

    Look folks, despite what good the fundamentalist movement might have brought us, we need to recognize that its demand for certainty has rendered the Bible a "scientific textbook" subject to modernity's scrutiny and it just wasn't written to such cultures or for such purposes. The Bible is not a scientific textbook nor is it a product of modernism and we should not require such of it for it to still authoritatively communicate truth.
     
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    Gen 5:6
    6 And Seth lived an hundred and five years, and begat Enos:
     

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