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Inclusivism vs. Exclusivism: Is Conscious faith in Christ necessary for salvation?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by evangelist6589, Mar 4, 2014.

  1. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589 Well-Known Member
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    Inclusivism is the view that those that have not heard the gospel can be saved by responding to the light given to them and they will be saved by God's grace.
    Inclusivism (unlike Pluralism) does teach that Jesus is the only way to God and Christianity is the only true religion but that the means of salvation can be made via other ways other than explicit faith in Christ. So in this few even atheists can be saved, and I am speaking about those that have never heard the gospel because General Revelation is good enough.

    In the exclusivist view however, conscious faith is necessary for salvation and plenty of biblical references teach this ( John 14:6; John 3:16-18; and Romans 10:13-15). But one has to wonder what of babies and Developmentally disabled people? How does God deal with them? Perhaps this passage will help explain.

    Matthew, Chapter 20, Verses 1-16, English Standard Version

    So what is your view? The Bible does teach exclusivism, but there may be some exceptions to the rule. No this is not logically correct, but we serve a God of grace.
     
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  2. pinoybaptist

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    the answer to the OP is YES, YES, YES.....there is no salvation without conscious faith in Christ.....He may have died on the cross for sinners, but those sinners must KNOW Him, His Name, who He is, in order to be saved...didn't the Scriptures say there is no other NAME given under heaven by which men MUST be saved ?
    like baptism, sinners MUST have a conscious faith in Christ for salvation.
    as for those who NEVER knew His Name and had conscious faith in Him and was baptized, sorry, they're in hell.
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    Inclusivism is heresy. It is the same junk folks like Dallas Willard tried to put out.
     
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    Exclusivism seems to be the biblical teaching. You must actively accept the conviction of the Holy Spirit leading to faith in Jesus Christ.
     
  5. OldRegular

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    God will bring all His elect, every single one of them , to eternal Salvation in Jesus Christ!
     
  6. pinoybaptist

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    He already did.
    The cross is past, the blood is shed, Christ is now seated in heaven interceding for His people, and soon He is coming back.
     
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    Billy Graham is an inclusivist. And I would say a majority of Christian "scholars" are as well.
     
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    No they're not.
     
  9. Yeshua1

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    bible teaches that NONE are asaved apart from receiving jesus thru faith in Himas Saviour/Lord/messiah!

    Now DO hold that he has a special election unto salvation for babies, both aborted and living, mentally challenged adults etc, and he will amke sure that the elect somehow get the message on Jesus to get saved!

    You have some saying in addition to that:

    God looks at how earnest they are in personal religion/faith, and that he credits that as saving them, as they would have become christian if but knew the truth Catholic view

    God knows what each sinenr would have done if was given th truth
    God elects only children from saved parents to get saved also
    god saved all thru the Cross
    God chose to save all, but if we reject and become athiests/other religions/lose salvation
     
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