Independent Fundamental Baptist ?

Out of curriosity what is the difference btwn Independent Fundamental Baptist and Southern Baptist. I am Southern Baptist.
Courtney

 

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Courtney: Southern Baptist is a little different, mostly that IFB's believe every word of the Bible literally. im IFB. and IFB's arent part of a widespread church. except of course, the church of God's believers. hence the name "Fundemental" and "Independent". as far as the KJV, thats all i use, but i dont think its "God's inspired perfect Bible" only the Greek and Hebrew original text is that. but of what is used today, i like KJV best.

 

I know at my church we only use KJV and I only use the KJV because I believe it is the best english translation, you lose so much with other translations, In the KJV it says:

John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

NIV:
John 14:2 In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you.

So you see the different it little but, it matters, I am going to have a mansion when I get to heaven, not a hotel room.

 

Courtney-
Another difference is that Independent in the IFB means that they don't align themselves with any other organizations. However, most Southern Baptist churches do the missionary thing- I don't remember what it's called- but the one where they send in a percentage of their offerings to this mission board or some organization thing (Sorry I forget what it's called!!).

 

I hate to burst anyone's bubble, but in the original language, it is "rooms". We will have a glorious room in the Father's home. I am sure it wont at all resemeble a hotel room Check me out on it, though - dont just take my word for it. Do a greek word study.

I used to only use one version myself, until I learned more about the original languages. I am not an expert by FAR, but no one is ever too young to start learning more about the Greek/Hebrew.

Yall remember "Big House" by DCTalk - its based on that passage.
"Its a big, big house, with lots and lots of rooms, a big big table, ..."

 

No, I do not remember DC Talk, Who is that? Wait I don't want to know, probably some Christian Rock singer I hate christian rock. It is so degrading. But, God is gonna give us a mansion in glory. I sincerely believe that.

My church runs about 50 people on Sunday. My church is called Faith Baptist Church. Our pastor is a great man, we sing hymns, have VBS.

 

I'm an Independant fundament, Bible believeing (ya'll know which one!) old fashioned, sin hating, repentance is still needed, saved by the blood, by grace through faith, BAPTIST!
And I ain't ashamed neither!
I attend Open Door Baptist Church of Gaffney SC, and I may be biased but I think my preacher is the worlds best (although I'd understand if ya'll had a diffrent opinion!).
Some diffrences b't Southern or IF Baptists were brought up.
Being independant means we don't join a convention or association. We believe in the local church being autonomous (big word meaning we govern ourselves). We also believe in the "Church" otherwise known as all saved people.
We know our missionaries, and send our support directly to the missionary instead of through a convention.
As for fundamental that means we believe and stand firmly on some basic Bible doctrines like the virgin birth, Christ's sacrificial death on the cross and His bodily ressurrection, priesthood of the believer, that all must be saved and salvation is by grace through faith plus nothing minus nothing. We believe in seperation of church and state, and we use only the King James Bible as our sole authority for faith and practice.
I hold these things dear, and am proud to be an IFB. We have a glorious heratige that we can trace all the way back to the Bible's churches, and down through the ages there were many groups who believed like the IFB's do now. They wern't always called Baptist, but they held Baptist distinctives.
There's much I could say, but this kind of a brief discription. I hope I'm not leaving me out. If I am, someone add on!

 

You believe in the seperation of church and state? I just find that kind of strange (not to be rude or go against your beliefs). I feel that seperation of church and state while something needed to be done due to the many religions/denominations we now face but the fact that all prayer in schools has to be student led (no teacher can lead a prayer) and how in science classes we only learn the theory of evolution, so anything having to do with the bible is completly removed. I would like to know why you feel otherwise (just because im curious).

 

"You believe in the seperation of church and state? I just find that kind of strange (not to be rude or go against your beliefs)."
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Yes, I do believe in seperation of church and state but I'm sure it's not the kind the government speaks of when it's brought up!
See when I first started learning about Baptist history, there was Catholic history there too (kindof hard to seperate the persecutors from the persecuted I suppose!) and learned how they became the state relegion and it's mandates governed the areas it controlled...i.e. papacy, vatican, Rome...and all that goes with it.
And later with Luthern and how at first he worked with groups of independent churches but later persecuted them. Germany finaly had either Luthern protestants or Catholics in control.
The early Baptist brethern realized freedom of relegion was nesecery. There were some fine people who founded our contry with relegious liberty in mind, and had we not had that heratige we might not have had the freedom to openly practice being Baptist today.
I'm not for the government sticking themselves into the church's affairs. Makes me boiling mad when they do, but I stand for seperation of church and state because I think we deserve the right to decide. I wouldn't want to be told I had to be Catholic or Prespyterian, or Methodist. And forcing someone to be a member of a denomination when they have no conversian wouldn't be right.
That's why we Baptist don't accept unconverted members.
I guess if the government ever changes and tries to force people to be a certian relegious persuasion they'll just have to get rid of me because I'm Baptist born and Baptist bred and when I die I'll be Baptist DEAD!

 

Ok Abby I see where you are coming from and I agree on that standpoint. But its almost like now that religion and the government cant have anything to do with eachother (do ya get me). I feel that basic Christianity should be upheld in the schools and government.


"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ"
-Patrick Henry


"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God."
-James Madison

 

Oh I agree with you completly. It's sad people want to take away our history and heratige like that.
Our contry was founded by Christians despite what some people would have us believe. And I think we ought to uphold that, and fight for it.

 

First of all thankyou for all your imputs on the differences. However, I have came to the conclusion that it is just legalistic things that are different. At my church my preacher preaches from NIV ( which I use) But other people use KJV or other versions. We ABSOLUTLY believe in the death and resurection of Jesus. Saved by grace and all that wonderful stuff. That is all that matters. Reading a certain version of the Bible or singing a certain type music does not send you Hell or Heaven.