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Discussion in '2000-02 Archive' started by Siegfried, Apr 19, 2002.

  1. Siegfried

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    What impact has the discussion on Baptist Board had on your view of translations? Has the discussion led to a change in the translation you used, or are you even stronger now in the position you've held?
     
  2. Miss Bobbie

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    Interesting results so far, Siegfried! I see all the hoopla surrounding the King James Version of the Bible, and don't understand why those who adhere to it have such strong passion about it. Yes, I'm sure that the language is beautiful for those who are familiar with it and already know the scriptures, but I get so bogged down with what I see as the awkwardness of it, and difficulty of it, that it isn't worth the frustration to me. And I generally don't visit this forum for that reason.

    I have five different versions of the Bible and often compare the wording of the translations to get a better grasp of what the scripture says. But I see so much "KJV ONLY" on the internet (and they sound so adamant about it!) that it's gotten to the point that I don't even visit webpages that make that proclamation.

    Just opinions, of course. [​IMG]

    [ April 19, 2002, 08:46 PM: Message edited by: Miss Bobbie ]
     
  3. Siegfried

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    Of course now I think about the fact that I should have put a choice "None" on #s 3 and 4.

    Oh, well.
     
  4. tyndale1946

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    Seigfried and Miss Bobbie I am a KJVO but before you think I adamantly oppose those who read a different version I don't. I read it and would not consider reading anything else because I've done a through study on the history of the translation and am satisfied this is the Bible for me. My wife reads the NKJV and that is the Bible for her and the one she enjoys reading. I find that arguing about different translations does not bring glory to God and pits brother against brother. Yes Miss Bobbie I have a strong passion for the KJV but that is for me and me alone. I will not argue what versions you and Siegfried read as those are the ones you enjoy and who am I to judge what you read and study. This is my KJVO position and the only one I take and since reading the arguments against my position my passion has become stronger!... Brother Glen [​IMG]

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  5. DocCas

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    Another stupid poll I couldn't honestly answer, so the thing won't let me vote. #3,#4, #5 cannot honestly be answered by me, so I guess you can only count those who agree with you! :(
     
  6. rsr

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    ESV? What's an ESV?

    Thanks to the Baptist Board I know ... and now have a copy -- to go along with the KJV, RSV, NASB, TNV, NIV, Phillips, Williams, Beck, etc. And the digital version of the Net Bible.

    [ April 20, 2002, 12:16 AM: Message edited by: rsr ]
     
  7. Siegfried

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    Thomas,

    Apparently you are a mind reader that you know what I believe.

    Some have successfully answered all five questions, and it seems pretty obvious from the diverse results that not everyone agrees with my position, whatever that is. I would say what it is, but apparently you already know.

    Tyndale,

    I've never considered your position KJV only, personally. I would call it KJV preferred, but I understand where you're coming from.

    Since I think versions are entirely a matter of soul liberty, I would never criticize your position, and I hope no one else would.
     
  8. Miss Bobbie

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    rsr - I think ESV is English Standard Version. Can't be sure.

    Brother Glen, I didn't mean that I think the KJVO folks oppose people who prefer a different version, just that, for the most part, from what I've seen on the internet, I get the impression that they, in general, look down on other Bible versions. (Did that big long sentence make sense?) My impression, in general, from what I've seen on the internet, is that KJVO folks have an arrogance about them and see all other versions/translations as so clearly inferior and erroneous as to not be taken seriously. (Did that sentence make sense, too?) They come off, to me, as condescending with a "tsk, tsk, tsk - you're using the wrong Bible" attitude.

    Again, this is just how I see it, and I mean no disrepect to anyone. I'd never attack a person's choice of Bible. I'm just expressing opinions. [​IMG]
     
  9. Miss Bobbie

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    I sure hope I said that right....
    If not, I'm sure I'll hear about it. :D
     
  10. rsr

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    Miss Bobbie:
    I don't think Brother Glen is a KJVO in the sense most are. He reads only the KJV; he wishes well those who read other translations. That's not the spirit of what we think of KJVOs. He thinks (I'm not trying to speak for you, Brother Glen, just interpreting ;) ) that the KJV is the best translation. He has none of the spirit of what we usually think of as KJVOs, that all other translations are the Spawn of Satan.

    ESV -- You got that right. ;)

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  11. DocCas

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    Wrong again!
    Duh! You ask questions which are carefully worded to spin the results. If you would ask good questions I would give you good answers, but since you think the only choices available were those narrow, and inaccurate, ones, you will just have to get over it. My dad used to tell me, "Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer."
     
  12. tyndale1946

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    Here's the comments I made here before and then left this part of the BB and I would not argue about which is the better version on Janurary 15.

    IMHO I feel that arguing about which translation is superior is a waste of time and not God honoring. I read and study the KJV but who am I to tell Barnabus, Thomas Cassidy, Chris Temple, Dr. Griffin, Pastor Larry or anyone else who posts what version to read and study.
    To me this is not God honoring at all! What about those who visit the baptist board and see the christian fighting going on here? I know if I was a visitor I would think twice about coming back. There are probably many around here who through years of study have developed a thick hide, mine is now french morrocan leather. :eek:
    I would like one or more people to point to me one scripture that says we need to be fighting over various translations? I find it a struggle trying to serve my God daily as the devil is always close by. You read and study which ever translation brings you joy and comfort in the Lord.
    The time to fight is when they come knocking on your door and take the Bible you read off your shelf. The time to fight is when you can't speak of your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in public, in church, or with your fellow christian brethren. Its happened before are we sure it can't happen again?
    I went to a KJV site one time to discuss the beauties of the King James that I love. That was the only reason for my going not to convert or convince anyone to my beliefs just for brotherly discussion. I thought the Devil ran the site because these so called christians were rude and crude and definately ungodly and I told them so and left.
    I will not be posting here again on Bible versions and translations because I feel it is not God honoring to the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit.
    Well I guess I lied because even though I seldom post in this forum I still check here occasionally and may post again if something peaks my interest!... Brother Glen [​IMG]

    [ April 21, 2002, 02:07 AM: Message edited by: tyndale1946 ]
     
  13. Siegfried

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    I anxiously await two things:
    1. Your verbalization of the insightful answers that I conspired to prevent you from communicating.
    2. The perfect poll. You certainly could have designed a poll superior to mine. Please bless us all with the opportunity to respond to it.

    I'm sure you'll be glad to know my therapy is going well. I see a nouthetic counselor again on Tuesday, and hopefully I'll be able to overcome my distraught pretty soon. :rolleyes:

    You're a pastor, right? Do you call your people stupid when they disagree with you? :(

    I'd really like to hear what the options are that I left out. Seriously, I do. I certainly didn't intend to slant the poll, and since no one else has complained, I'm curious to understand where you're coming from.
     
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    There have been posts on this board ridiculing us ignorant KJVOers. Therefore my resolve was strengthened. I won't debate texts or versions, but I wonder about the many people who tell me that the KJV is hard to understand, or boring, or outdated. I'm no Ruckmanite, but I am KJVO. That means I only read the KJV.

    This poll was impossible to take.
     
  15. DocCas

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    I did not accuse you of any conspiracy regarding anything. You must have confused me with someone else.
    I don't care enough about polls to post one. I don't formulate my doctrine on the basis of majority vote. The one thing I have learned in the past several decades is that majority opinion is usually wrong.
    &lt;sigh&gt; I didn't say you were stupid. Please go back and read what I actually wrote!

    [ April 22, 2002, 01:16 PM: Message edited by: Thomas Cassidy ]
     
  16. KEVO

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    Mr.Curtis,they call us "Ruckmanites" because he is the leader of the kjvonly movement at this time.But there were kjv onlyist before Dr. Ruckman,and there will be kjv onlyist after Dr. Ruckman.God will continue to perserve his word in the kjv.
     
  17. Forever settled in heaven

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    did that KJB Onlyist go by the name Benjamin G Wilkinson?

    u know, the guy who thot Bishop Westcott was a Mariolater?

     
  18. Siegfried

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    Many if not most KJV only advocates would deny any association with Ruckman, most of all that he is the leader of the movement.
     

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