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Influence of so-called "Christian" Radio

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Dr. Bob, Jul 11, 2003.

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  1. Dr. Bob

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    Found that the reason why many people in my church knew and enjoyed the rock-and-roll style CCM (and I didn't) is because they were tuned to one of our two semi-christian radio stations.

    One had good Bible teachers and country/southern style music. Other had EXCELLENT Bible teachers and all CCM. Most christians gravitated to one or the other (from the secular stations) of these christian stations.

    And they hold UNBELIEVABLE influence over the "tastes" and "perceptions" of music and preaching. MY preaching had better be able to match up with the homey style of Chuck Swindoll and the doctrinal depth of RC Sproul.

    And MY music had better be all written since 1970 or only the graybeards will know 'em.
     
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    Dr. Bob, you sound upset. "So-called" Christian radio is just that: Christian radio. I suppose you'd be happier if they didn't know ANY Christian music? I don't understand why it seems like so many here bash "CCM" because some people seem to like it more than the old standards.

    I may offer a guess as to why later, but I'm getting a little frustrated with people (on both sides of the issue) who belittle and demean a STYLE of music without looking to the MESSAGE of the music. As far as your preaching goes, you preach what's on your heart to preach. If God gives you the message, you don't have to be Chuck, Max, R. C., or John. God has put you in charge of His flock there, not them. Just my humble opinion. [​IMG]
     
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    Why do you (anyone) suppose that is/was the case?

    If a Christian radio station offers EXCELLENT Bible teachers and all CCM, what is their angle?

    Around the BB, it's commonly known that those who don't care for the CCM, don't care for it, because they feel it waters down the message of Jesus Christ in many ways. Thus CCM listeners and those who use/sing such music in their worship services have watered down the gospel of Jesus Chirst. That would only promote a shallow walk with the Lord.

    Why would a Christian radio station that utilizes CCM, also have Excellent Bible teachers? Could they and their listeners have a deep love for the Lord and want better Bible teaching? or are they trying to make up for the shallowness of the music?
     
    #3 Gib, Jul 12, 2003
  4. Dr. Bob

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    Upset? Nah. You don't know me well enough if you think that makes me upset! :eek:

    Just an evaluation and wanted to see if it was common for others and their semi-christian radio stations.

    Obviously, to me a "good" station would have top quality preaching/teaching AND top quality music. And yes, music tastes vary. I have an eclectic tasted in music myself.

    But love good quality music with solid lyrics (thereby eliminating 90% of CCM). I am a minority and hence few radio stations would appeal to a demographic of Bob!! :rolleyes:
     
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    You say things such as 90% and throw around statistics, but you never back them up. Do you honestly think that 90% of all of the music out there has sketchy lyrics? Seriously, now...
     
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  6. Joshua Rhodes

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    Sorry, Dr. Bob, if I seemed reactionary. Just a peeve I've been harboring.
     
    #6 Joshua Rhodes, Jul 12, 2003
  7. Travelsong

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    I believe the figure might be higher, but that's just personal opinion. I've listened to quite alot of modern CCM in an effort to find enjoyable and edifying stuff, but it's mostly crap to me. The lyrics for the most part are extremely sophmoric, the music bland, and the general attitude childish.

    Maybe you can recommend something as well written as the music of Michael Card and Keith Green? I'd seriously be interested in that.
     
    #7 Travelsong, Jul 12, 2003
  8. dianetavegia

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    Speaking of statistics, I heard off the Toccoa Falls College Radio station that 85% of what a person knows about God was learned through Christian music. Now that scares me if the more modern music is not based on scripture or is not including important Biblical truths!

    TFC Radio Network - P.O. Box 780 Toccoa Falls, GA 30598

    Their web address is www.toccoafalls.edu/radio/stations.asp

    but it is temporarily unavailable.

    Listen to TFC Live Online! Moved out of the TFC listening area and miss the great programming? Stuck at work with no radio or no reception. Now you can listen to TFC live on the internet!! Click here to listen live! ... How to contact the TFC Radio Network: PO Box 780 800-251-8326 Toccoa Falls, GA 30598 [email protected] ...
    www.toccoafalls.edu/radio/listen_online.htm
     
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    I believe the figure might be higher, but that's just personal opinion. I've listened to quite alot of modern CCM in an effort to find enjoyable and edifying stuff, but it's mostly crap to me. The lyrics for the most part are extremely sophmoric, the music bland, and the general attitude childish.

    Maybe you can recommend something as well written as the music of Michael Card and Keith Green? I'd seriously be interested in that.     </font>[/QUOTE]Chris Tomlin
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    Isn't that a mix of preaching programs(like James Dobson, Tony Evans, et al) and music? I remember listening to a station at TFC when I lived in Dahlonega 5 years ago, and I'm wondering if that's it.
     
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    Wes King
    Randy Stonehill
    T.J. Klay
    Jim Cole
    Julie Miller (she had several excellent Christian albums before turning to mainstream music)
    Charlie Peacock
    One Man Shattered
    Brian Moss
    Homecomers Hime
     
    #11 Mike McK, Jul 15, 2003
  12. dianetavegia

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    It sure is Jimmy! I used to put Nick in the car every day at 3:00 so I could go for a ride and listen to Tony Evans preach!

    Diane
     
    #12 dianetavegia, Jul 15, 2003
  13. ColoradoFB

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    I have always liked Keith Green's music. I worked in Christian Radio when he and 2 of his kids died in that tragic plane accident.

    I didn't agree with all his theology, but Keith had a sincere heart and a love for people from everything I knew.
     
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  14. Joshua Rhodes

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    Yeah, Colorado...

    Keith Green, Rich Mullins, Chris Rice, Wes King, Cindy Morgan, Graham Kendrick, Ginny Owens, and Jeromy Diebler of FFH are among my favorite songwriters. I'm thankful that our local station plays alot of their stuff, although arguably not their best.

    Check out Keith Green's Asleep in the Light . Powerful, just powerful.
     
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  15. ColoradoFB

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    Joshua,

    Here is one of my very favorite Keith Green songs:

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    I Don't Wanna Fall Away From You


    After all the things that you have shown me,
    I'd be a fool to let them slip away,
    In doing things I know I shouldn't do,
    But I don't want to fall away from you, from you.

    After all, I've only grieved your spirit,
    And then I don't know why you stay with me.
    But every time I fall your love comes through,
    And I don't want to fall away from you.

    When the light is gone, and good times are getting old,
    There's no one left to count on, and all my friends are cold,
    When I thirst for love oh Lord, you're a fountain to my soul,
    My soul, my soul, oh Lord, my soul.

    In a way my life is full of burdens,
    But in a way you carry them from me, Jesus.
    Cause no one understands the way you do,
    And you know Lord, I don't want to fall away from you.
    Well every day I pray to start anew,
    Cause I don't want to fall away from you.
    No Lord, I don't wanna fall away from you,
    No Lord, I don't wanna fall away from you,
    From you…..Lord.
     
    #15 ColoradoFB, Jul 16, 2003
  16. Travelsong

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    Hmmm....

    For my favorite keith Green song I'd hafta go with "Rushing Wind". What an inspired Lyric.

    Rushing wind blow through this temple,
    Blowing out the dust within,
    Come and breathe you breath upon me,
    I`ve been born again.

    Holy Spirit, I surrender, take me where you want to go,
    Plant me by your living water,
    Plant me deep so I can grow.

    Jesus, you`re the one, who set my spirit free,
    Use me Lord, glorify, your Holy Name through me.

    Separate me from this world Lord.
    Sanctify my life for you.
    Daily change me to your image,
    Help me bear good fruit.

    Every day you`re drawing closer.
    Trials come to test my faith.
    But when all is said and done Lord,
    You know, it was worth the wait.

    Jesus, you`re the one, who set my spirit free,
    Use me Lord, glorify, your Holy Name through me.

    Rushing wind blow through this temple,
    Blowing out the dust within,
    Come and breathe you breath upon me,
    For I`ve been born again.
     
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  17. Joshua Rhodes

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    Admittedly, I wish there were more Christian artists like Keith was. His songs are still being sung, and I'm thankful. I hope my grandkids are still singing Keith and Rich Mullins songs when they worship. We'll see, I guess. I guess then I'll be an "old fogey" complaining about the music they're listening to. Oh, sorry, thought this was the "I'm turning into my grandparents" thread. [​IMG] (just kidding)
     
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    Below is a list I posted on another thread about a month ago or so, but think it is appropriate here. It is a list of Christian musicians from the 70s that I recall from my days in Christian radio. How many do you remember:

    Daniel Amos
    Don Francisco
    DeGarmo & Key
    Andrus, Blackwood & Co.
    Russ Taff
    David Meece
    Pat Terry Group
    Reba Rambo
    Farrell & Farrell
    Second Chapter of Acts
    Keith Green
    Dogwood (Steve & Annie Chapman & Ron Elder)
    Dan Peek (formerly of America)
    Bob Dylan (short Christian era)
    BJ Thomas' Christian music
    Evie Tornquist
    Scott Wesley Brown
    Wall Brothers Band
    Chris Christian
    Michael & Stormie O'Martian
    Kelly Willard
    Randy Stonehill
    Petra
    Amy Grant as a teenager
    Andre Crouch & The Disciples
    Barry McGuire (yes of "Eve of Destruction" fame, but famous in Christian circles for "Bullfrogs & Butterflies & Cosmic Cowboy")
    Donny & Joy McGuire (Donny divorced Joy to marry Reba Rambo as I recall)
    Love Song
    Bob Ayala
    Hope of Glory
    Sharalee Lucas
    Larry Norman
    Gary S. Paxton
    Sweet Comfort Band
     
    #18 ColoradoFB, Jul 16, 2003
  19. dianetavegia

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    Colorado! I remember these and still have tapes or records of these artists:
    Gary S. Paxton
    Petra
    Amy Grant as a teenager
    Andre Crouch & The Disciples
    Barry McGuire
    Chris Christian
    Michael & Stormie O'Martian
    Evie Tornquist
    Scott Wesley Brown
    Bob Dylan (short Christian era)
    BJ Thomas' Christian music
    Reba Rambo
    Farrell & Farrell
    Second Chapter of Acts
    Keith Green

    Question for YOU. Reba Rambo had a song about heaven. I THOUGHT it was 'All Day Dinner on the Ground' but a web search comes up blank. The song was done in the style of 'Bugle Boy From Co. B'. Do YOU recall the song? She did another one about 'How can we speak to the deaf ear, et...'

    Diane
     
    #19 dianetavegia, Jul 16, 2003
  20. ColoradoFB

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    I remember the song very well. I think it was "All Day Dinner". If memory serves, it was on the same album as "The Land of Oohs and Ahs". I think I have the vinyl LP at home. I'll check on it and let you know for sure.

    We played that song a lot on the old KFMK, Stereo 98, Houston's 24-hour love song! That station was the forerunner of what is now KSBJ.
     
    #20 ColoradoFB, Jul 16, 2003
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