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Influence of the BB on your use of the KJV

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Siegfried, Oct 1, 2004.

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  4. When I first visited BB, I was undecided, and I'm still undecided.

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  6. When I first visited BB, I believed that the KJV is NOT the only acceptable English translation, and

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  1. natters

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    Askjo said "Was the TR there in 2nd Century? Yes or no?"

    If you mean "was there was a received text", the answer is "yes". If you mean the Greek NT commonly known today as the "Textus Receptus", no, that did not exist before the Roman Catholic monk and priest Erasmus compiled it in the early 16th century, after more than 75% of church history (from today's perspective) had already past.
     
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    Probably. And if there was, every shred of evidence we have shows that no two copies of the "2nd Century received text" were identical. In fact, much of the evidence we have suggests that it was more like the Alexandrian text family than the Byzantine family.
     
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    You contention is not TR-Onlysim. This, at least, has some reasonable discussion to it. But your arguement is KJV-Onlyism, not TR-Onlyism, so your point is moot.
     
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    Amen and Amen! It is also off topic.
     
  5. Askjo

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    I do not think you are on the truth's side. That is very obvious.
     
  6. Askjo

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    You confused between 2 sides of the TR.
     
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    Askjo said "You confused between 2 sides of the TR."

    No, I've checked both the front side and the back side.
     
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    I do not think you are on the truth's side. That is very obvious. </font>[/QUOTE]Askjo, you're not going to be able to goad me into anything, so don't even try. YOU are the one who is allergic to the truth, and that is obvious by your lack of ability to back up your position without trying to use typical evasion techniques.
     
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    [snipped]

    [ October 04, 2004, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]
     
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    It's obvious he doesn't know what he's talking about, natters...so why bother with him???
     
  11. Askjo

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    You contention is not TR-Onlysim. This, at least, has some reasonable discussion to it. But your arguement is KJV-Onlyism, not TR-Onlyism, so your point is moot. </font>[/QUOTE]I am TR/KJV onlyist, not KJVO!
     
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    You, by your own admission, if you will read your post admitted just now that you ARE INDEED KJVO. [snipped]

    [ October 04, 2004, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: Dr. Bob ]
     
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    Askjo said "I am TR/KJV onlyist"

    Which TR? Which KJV? Why do they not match?
     
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    Erasmus took care of the TR texts and threw Vaticanus manuscript out of his office because he rejected the Vaticanus manuscript.

    The history of the TR (the Received Text, Traditional texts) began with the early apostolic period. It began with the MSS that were copied and recopied by the churches.
     
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    What history book is that from? None of mine say Erasmus ever had possesion of the Vatincanus.
     
  16. Dr. Bob

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    This is still a very active and useful thread and we will not allow rabbit trails. I am interested in how the BB has helped folks deal with the KJV Controversy.

    This thread will remain open AND on topic.

    Thanks.
     
  17. Askjo

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    None? That is interesting!
     
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    Lack of ability? You do the same because I asked you just one question that you are incapable to answer my question.

    Allergic to the truth? I see, you wear goat to cover yourself in sheep field because you are on wrong side where I stand.
     
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    Rabbit trail. I'll start a new thread and you can prove your assertion there.
     
  20. Dr. Bob

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    Please start a new thread. I am busy snipping askjo's off topic trails.

    Askjo, I am asking you NOT to post on this thread. You have shared your opinion and we need others now to share.
     
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