Influential Pastor Warns of Socialism, Departure from God

Exactly, it was voluntary. But they Just wanted to be cool.

 

Thinking, Anninias and Saphira were punished for lying, not for refusing to give everything. Reread Acts 5. Most commentators (if not all) I have read agree.

 

You think I'm arguing with you. I'm not. I've just commented on a previous statement that Christians would be excommunicated for not volunteering to give their wealth. I used the Anninias story to show that view wasn't true. Because the issue wasn't their volunteering but as you say lieing to get into the good graces of the Apostles and the fellowship. So, the early church volunteered to give to the community freely thus they acted socialisticly. In a socialistic government it is elected by the majority and since the majority is awar of socialism it is volunteering to have elected officials distribute the wealth. Which means the first christians acted in accordance with this tennant though the motivation was different.

 

You think I'm arguing with you. I'm not. I've just commented on a previous statement that Christians would be excommunicated for not volunteering to give their wealth. I used the Anninias story to show that view wasn't true. Because the issue wasn't their volunteering but as you say lieing to get into the good graces of the Apostles and the fellowship. So, the early church volunteered to give to the community freely thus they acted socialisticly. In a socialistic government it is elected by the majority and since the majority is awar of socialism it is volunteering to have elected officials distribute the wealth. Which means the first christians acted in accordance with this tennant though the motivation was different.


Talk about poor exegesis and application of God's word to justify stealing from one segment of society to give to another. I feel sorry for any victim who comes under your teaching from the Bible.

 

The people who didn't vote for it are forced to still participate. As well, the people did not give up their life to live in a socialist society. They did sell to give to the needy and they acted as though they had nothing and they willingly, not under compulsion, gave. Socialism does not give you a choice and makes it so you are under compulsion. That is why socialism is evil.

Next, only in Jerusalem was such acts seen. Christians elsewhere did not feel compelled to repeat that practice.

Finally, the Bible honors, not the living as one, but the sacrificial giving from the heart. With no compulsion, people were seen as generous and compassionate. Socialism is neither generous nor compassionate as it is compulsory.

 

Except that our system in the U.S. is not socialist.

What I have today, I've worked for over 20 years to have; and due to an administration that I didn't vote for, I'm being threatened to share that 20 years' worth of work with those that simply want their bills to magically disappear.

Someone educate me on how that economic system works.

 

It works by stealing from those who work and giving it to those who won't. No where in the Bible is this practice advocated. To do so is to twist the scripture in order force it to mold into the progressive agenda of tax and spend. The problem is that after a while there is no one left to tax. Everyone has their hand in the collective cookie jar and we end up just like Greece.

 

Wow...this shows stunning ignorance of the difference between sharing in the early church, and socialism as practiced by governments.

Also...long-term, socialistic systems of government haven't worked.

 

Not only this that practice not advocated in the bible, it is spoken against in the bible. But people who wish to twist the bible to fit their social agenda don't care. They are too busy presenting Jesus as a hippie liberal who wanted world peace, loves socialism, and never had one harsh word to say to anyone. In short, they have invented their own version of Jesus, have twisted the scriptures to fit their invention and social ideas, and now present what they have invented, a social gospel, as the real gospel.

 

It's a social gospel may get you check each month but in the final accounting it will send you straight to hell for the real gospel requires that a man or woman have faith in Jesus and not the government.

 

Some of the things the right-wing say astounds me! Show me where the scripture makes the government the issue? And, on another thread these same posters complain that those in our churches are being taught the biblical method of salvation. (General Baptist Discussions - VBS thread)

 

No, I am happy with it.

 

Has not the general "departure" already taken place?

During the presidential election campaign, an expose showed America being publicy cursed and God blasphemed by the pastor of one of the candidates.

Apparently, this made no difference to the majority who voted and didn't matter to those who didn't vote but could have.

This is in addition to the issues of abortion, euthanasia and eugenics by the present administration and it's advisory staff of "Czaars".

Are we not already asleep at the wheel?

HankD

 

Some of the things the right-wing say astounds me! Show me where the scripture makes the government the issue? And, on another thread these same posters complain that those in our churches are being taught the biblical method of salvation. (General Baptist Discussions - VBS thread)

What??????? Help us so called "right wing" understand what in the world you are talking about.

 

Facts ARE devilish things to those who love "pretend" (being nice here!)

And this is a relevant question why??????

Yeah, I like fishing too!

'Tis truly a shame you let your motorcycle accident "epiphany of conservative insight" ride off into the sunset! You actually made some sense back then.:tear:

 

The crickets you hear are RS ignoring this particular post, because he has no answer for it.

Wait...don't tell me...

A guess:

 

Bro Charles Stanley is right on target.

Its shamefull what is going on in this country. Its even more shamefull that people who should be able to see it choose to ignore the Big Gorilla in the room.

:BangHead:

 

Wow, if the same standard were used today, we would be short of politicians.