Infowars Story on Illegal Tennessee Checkpoint Prompts Action by Governor

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  1. poncho

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    In response to a number of calls to the Tennessee Governor’s office, the Whiteville, Tennessee police have canceled a planned seat belt checkpoint operation that was to be conducted in conjunction with the Department of Homeland Security and the 251st Military Police in Bolivar, Tennessee.

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    Good for "We, the People" and good for the TN governor, even if done for his own political expediency!

    This was only a double pronged attempt - one to get money from motorists, who would be ticketed for not wearing their seat belts, and two - to get people more used to being stopped for no good reason, under the guise of "homeland security", IMO.

    FTR, when away from my own home town, I always wear my seat-belt, simply to keep from getting stopped, although it is not always worn very tightly.

    Amazing what one can do with a couple of small pairs of VICE-GRIP® pliers, strategically placed. :thumbs:

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    Thank you, Christian brother, for teaching us how to evade the law.

    You can thank the evil Sanhedran for inventing civil fines as an alternative to physical punishment. Would any of you prefer the whipping post as an alternative to paying a fine for not wearing seat belts?

    Or if there public objection to seatbelt and speeding laws then why do you not petition your government to change them? Isn't that the "American" way?
     
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    This isn't about seatbelts. It's about unreasonable searches and the military policing civilians. They seem to be the one's skirting the law here. Or do you object to them obeying the law?
     
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    Since I believe you have directed this 'shot' at me-

    FTR, I don't believe I said one word about not obeying, or evading the law.

    But thanks for the judgmental insinuation that I did. :rolleyes:

    The law only requires me to wear a seatbelt, which I generally do, when "on the road." It says nothing about how tightly said belt must be worn, to my knowledge. The reason I do not normally wear it very tightly (only tight enough to prevent me from going into the dash, if 'riding shotgun' or through the windshield, and if driving, and hopefully from having my chest crushed against the steering wheel, if and when we should unfortunately be in a crash), is because I have had two surgeries that split me open, including cutting my sternum into two parts from the belt line to my left ear, and the pressure is of a tight seatbelt on the resultant scar-tissue is extremely uncomfortable, when worn for long periods. In fact, I was not even permitted to ride in a front seat, by my surgeon, for about six months, after the two surgeries.

    Unfortunately, unlike in many models of vehicles, one cannot slightly 'adjust' the seatbelt of our current vehicle to simply take this additional pressure off, while keeping the seatbelt relatively snug, which I would do if possible.

    Why would you even suggest or imply "a whipping post" for someone whose seatbelt tension did not meet your own personal desire or idea of how tightly one should be worn?

    FTR, I could receive a legal physician's written exemption to my even having to wear any seatbelt, in the first place, which I have not done, simply because I am 'required' to carry this exemption with me, at all times, if not wearing one, when stopped, in KY. By law, seatbelt usage alone is not (or at least was not prior to the current General Assembly session, I do not believe) cause for any "primary reason" for citing for a traffic violation here in KY, and only a 'secondary' reason, again FTR, although some legislators have attempted to get this enacted, making it so.

    In addition, by trade, I am a sometimes taxi driver. Were the seatbelt requirement to be enforced for drivers, on this job, I would never drive another mile, in a cab, for I am unwilling to place my own safety and life, as well as the life and safety of any other passengers into the hands of some passenger who could completely immobilize me, and rob me, or worse, simply by grabbing my seatbelt, and pulling.

    I also suggest, if you are particularly a stickler for the "speeding laws" as you described them, stay off all roads completely, especially I-64, I-65, and I-264 in KY, near Louisville, and I-71/75, and I-275 in Northern KY, approaching Covington and Cincinnati. I wish to drive in a safe manner, and that means generally driving "with the traffic flow", however it is moving and flowing.

    The posted Speed Limits in these areas may drop from the 70 MPH in the rural areas, to as low as 50, around these cities. The traffic, in up to five Interstate lanes, does not slow to anywhere near this posted speed, except perhaps during "rush hour" with the "bumper-to-bumper" traffic. Nor do I, when traversing such areas, as I have no intention of creating a traffic back-up or causing an accident, because others are not "as conscientious" about said speed limits. And even with a posted speed limits of 50 and 60, when the rush hour traffic is generally moving at around 35-40 MPH, I suggest that it would be absolutely insane, even though entirely legal, to attempt to drive at 60 in such conditions.

    BTW, one can generally drive at the posted 70, fairly safely in KY on all the Interstates and Parkways in rural areas, except for I-65, where the traffic will generally run between 75 and 80, in these rural areas. And I have driven many multiple miles, many times, on virtually every one of these routes in KY, except for a stretch of I-24, one stretch of I-71, and the Audubon Parkway.

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    Every state has different traffic rules but "speed limit" should mean the same in every state. If the people think a speed limit is to low they should change it but it pulls my chain when every area has an unstated speed limit. Oregon seems to be the worst. In some places the freeway is posted 55 while all lanes are going 70.

    Agree that the federal govt misuses power but this has been the norm since Lincoln's War. Only way to change it now is a bloody, shooting war and it ain't that bad yet.
     
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    Kentucky has a speed limit?

    :D :D :D





    The planned deal in TN is frightening for a whole slew of reasons... But the main one is, The Government was planning on using US Troops on US Civilians.
    Mind numbing! I know they are sometimes called in for emergencys and at one time in our history we had a civil war.... but I thought the 'enlightened ones' were over the barbarism of needing to enforce their rules at gunpoint.....

    Imagine that Politicians trying to impose their will upon the people of the United States illegally... That's a first huh.
     
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    A "posted one" anyway.

    BTW, the way to find the proper speed limit is just get behind any trucker. He (or she) will

    'draft' you right along the Interstate at the maximum allowable speed











    between cops. ;)

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    In Kentucky the way to find the speed limit is to wait until the police pull you over and tells you what it is.
     
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    That's what happens when the criminal state gets paranoid and starts thinking it's own citizens are the number one terrorist threat to it's hold on power. As far as the state is concerned we're all terror suspects now. Especially if we have Ron Paul bumper stickers and know our rights.
     
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