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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Askjo, Jun 21, 2003.
There is one confusion between the KJV and the inspiration. Which do you believe?
Some poll, buddy; to choose between 2 questions and no answers
Good one. I needed a chuckle for the day!
Are you a Ruckmanite?
New poll question:
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Answer yes or no
What kind of a poll is this. Both questons ask the same thing.
Actually, I think I get it:
Question number one: Absolutely NOT
Question number two: Absolutely
The authors of the KJV were not Divinely Inspired; however, the authors of the Word of God were most definitely Divinely Inspired.
Is this the thought process involved?
My answer is , "Yes, I've stopped beating my wife, because I never started"
I find it hard to consider the credibility of anyone who jokes about beating their wife.
Oh! That's right! It's another one of those mv put downs, o.k.
Your presumption is ludicrous. I was Divinely inspired when I got saved. I am Divinely inspired to read my Bible. I am Divinely inspired to pray and seek the Face of God. I am Divinely inspired to witness to the lost, comfort the tossed, and praise the Boss/ Jesus. So I belive the KJB translators are just as Divinely inspired to undertake their studies to give us the completed, canonized Word of God in the English language.
Any attempt to discredit the Word of God by attacking the credibility of the KJB translators as their not being Divinely inspired is
S T U P I D!! It's childish; study that suffix "ish" and it's origin and see where Ishmael comes into play!
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ludicrous: adjective. sportive;burlesque;adfapted to raise laughter, WITHOUT SCORN OR CONTEMPT!
Something you haven't done.
To say that the tranlators or their works are not Divinely inspired is the same old song and dance heard now for about two centuries. If they weren't inspired of God to do the work they did, then who inspired them in your opinion.
BTW, STOP writing something into what I say as a means of denigrating my posts!
While you are at it, check out what the Bible says about bearing false witness.......... </font>[/QUOTE]Maybe you should expound on this last statement in a PM to me, unless of course your motive is to demean and defame my character.
"To say that the translators or their works are not Divinely inspired is the same old song and dance heard now for about two centuries. If they weren't inspired of God to do the work they did, then who inspired them in your opinion."
In that case, you must agree that the translators of the NIV were also divinely inspired. Why else would they "do the work they did." God has born witness of this because He has allowed the NIV to outsell the KJV as well as all the other versions available.
I have just been divinely inspired to laugh.
I usually stay out of this forum, but PLEASE give me a break. "Inspired," is theopneustos in the Greek, and applies only to the writings of the Biblical writers who were the Holy Spirit's pens to actually write down the Scriptures (2 Tim 3:16-17, 2 Pet 1:19-21).
1. The KJV translators never claimed to be inspired--a lot of what they did was copied from earlier translations--the NT is 90% Tyndale's!
2. The early defenders of the KJV, Dean Burgon up through Hills NEVER applied "inspired" to the KJV translation, that is a MODERN innovation. Who inspired the KJV translators? No one did! They were not inspired, because they did not have the gift of prophecy, which passed away with the passing of the Apostles. Now, of course, if the believers in "inspired translations" are Pentecostals......
Originally posted by Istherenotacause:
>>Maybe you should expound on this last statement in a PM to me,
>>unless of course your motive is to demean and defame my character.
You quote me, then use words like "ludicrous," "stupid," and "childish," yet I am the one whose motive is to "demean and defame."
I never made "any attempt to discredit the Word of God by attacking the credibility of the KJB translators" as you stated. I simply said that the authors of the Bible were Divinely Inspired.
There is a vast difference between writing the Word of God and translating the Word of God. Please show me where I attacked the translators.
Are you now saying that Luther, Wiclif, Tyndale, Calvin, and the authors of the ESV were also Divinely Inspired?
I use something as general and you take it personal. You have taken what I've said and made it as if I directed at you.
The esv? calvin? Ha! inspired by whom might be better to ask. I won't consider the question any further, I might get ACCUSED of "HIJACKING" the thread!
Great! Now we use Greek to straighten out the English word "inspire", then suggest some one of being pentecostal
Who inspired you to reply ?
If you guys want to have a fist fight, then go out behind the barn somewhere. You are not having a private conversation. Your words (both sides) are mean-spirited and hurtful. Now, I can spar with the best of you but, there are folks (potentially thousands) reading what you are saying. Some of them are not "grown-up" in the faith and you could easily cause some of them to stumble. I am also embarassed to invite my friends to come to this board and have them think that THIS is what I was recommending to them. Remember...
Matt 12:36...That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.