Invitation or Summons

Exactly what I said. Like you said, in CONTEXT this is the point Paul was making. They were making spiritual decisions using the "natural man" approach.

Be prepared to be blackballed with me now.

 

Now is the time for the Luke patented phrase... "just because you say so doesn't make it so".

 

Now you appeal to a dictionary :laugh:

You crack me up...

 

...kind of like the definition of "dead", right?

 

What's the position that no reputable commentator agrees with?

 

In an attempt to keep this in context of the original post: whether it's an invitation or a summons, how does 1 Cor 2:14 apply? It would seem to imply neither. If the unregenerate man is totally without capability of regeneration, then neither invitation nor summons is of any value; and leads one to question (as has been done here): Why did God issue the invitation or summons, knowing that it would be ignored?

(BTW: you didn't clarify your comment about 1 Cor 2:1, or whether you actually meant 1 Cor 3:1 (see top of page 6 of this thread).)

 

13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

If a man is saved, he had to have faith to believe.
Faith is a spiritual thing, the natural man cannot understand it, it's foolish to him to believe in an invisible God.
A saved man struggling with flesh, would be spiritual comparing natural.
It does not say that in this scripture.:jesus:

 

Wow, some things just get all twisted up when there is envy and strife. Not just this board but in churches and the world in general. Let's just pray the Holy Spirit to breath on these scriptures and enlighten us all.:thumbs::jesus::love2:

 

Where I lose you on the reference to 1 Cor 2:1 is this: You state that this verse speaks of their condition when Paul found them; it does not. I do not question that Paul is most likely referencing when he first preached to them, and they heard the Word and were saved; however, I disagree with your stating that the verse speaks of their condition. That particular statement (speaking of their condition) was not Paul's intention in the opening verses of this chapter; nor does any commentary I have access to regard them in this way.

You did not address my question regarding 1 Cor 2:14; specifically: If the unregenerate man is totally without capability of regeneration, then neither invitation nor summons is of any value; and leads one to question (as has been done here): Why did God issue the invitation or summons, knowing that it would be ignored?

 

Aren't you guys getting tired yet? Just reading these threads has worn me out! :laugh:

 

Nah; we haven't hit page 20 yet! :tongue3:

 

You didn't address the clarification on 1 Cor 2:1.

I will have to give the rest of your post some thought before responding.