This has come up in a number of other discussions, and I think it deserves its own topic. While it is not really a science issue, my impression is that this forum is mainly for the creation debate (which is why it is hidden), so I don't think it's too off-topic here. I would be interested in reading a young-earth defense of the idea that animal death is evil and so would not happen in a creation that was declared by God to be "very good". In particular, I'd like to see a verse-by-verse exegesis that shows how such a position is consistent with the various passages that directly or indirectly deal with the issue. Some of these verses are:</font> Genesis 1:29-30, 2:16-17</font> Genesis 9:3</font> Job 38:39-41</font> Psalm 104:20-30</font> Isaiah 11:6, 35:9-10, 65:25</font> Isaiah 25:6-8</font> Romans 5:12-21</font> 1 Timothy 4:1-6</font> I've never read an explanation that dealt with all these verses. Generally, such explanations only deal with Genesis and Romans. Further, the explanations of Romans usually lead to one of two errors: (1) ignoring how Paul says sin is passed down from Adam or claiming that animals somehow inherit a sin nature from Adam too; or (2) placing animals on the same level as humans as recipients of Jesus' salvific gift, due to the way Paul links the first and second Adam. If there is an interpretation that avoids these errors and can also account for the other Scripture passages listed, I'd love to read it. I've explained my own view on the issue in the following posts: </font> Genesis passages</font> Psalm 104</font> Isaiah passages (and followup)</font> New Testament passages</font> Rebuttal, including Job passages not discussed earlier</font> Anyway, there's a few young-earth creationists here that claim they'd like to focus on the Bible rather than science. This topic gives them a chance to do just that.