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Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by ventin, Jan 25, 2003.
No, he's a Methodist.
methodist since marriage, raised episcopalian
Is he a Christian?
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[ January 26, 2003, 12:29 AM: Message edited by: Pennsylvania Jim ]
Gos knows thhis heart and the Bible says theat the heart of the king is in the hand of God, but from his fruits I would say he is a Christian. He professes to be one.
President Bush made the remark a couple of weeks ago at a mosque in Wahington that the Koran is "The Word of God to the prophet Mohammed." I don't know that anyone who is a Christian (i.e. born again, new nature, indwelt by God's Holy Spirit) could refer to a Satanic "Scripture" as God's Word.
Bush has in the past publicly stated that he has committed his heart to Jesus Christ. He's definitely a Christian.
He has an obligation to be religiously tolerant because of his position. He represents a country that has thousands of different religious beliefs, we aren't in a Christian nation, i see what he does concerning other religions is tolerance, not endorsement. Evangelical Christians are, for the most part, intolerant, we shouldn't believe what others believe, and we shouldn't endorse what others believe, but we should realize that they have their own beliefs and opinions, just like we have ours, we have an obligation to show them Christ's love, only when we begin loving others for who they are, and quit calling them dirty, satanic, heathen scum, will the world realize that there is something different about us... that we have something they don't, something they need...
You may believe he has an obligation, yet the Bible gives him a command. Which is he going to hold to? He may be judged by his constituants on his obligation, but God will judge him on the command. Any public servant who openly admits Christianity is going to be held accountable to Scripture. I hold him accountable. Accountability is good for all.
II John 8-11
Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
May God be merciful to George Bush and may he repent before it is too late.
I would reply to your posts, Bart and Jim, but Mike has done so sufficiently
Just thought I would post the quote as it was said for reference. The speech can be read in its entirety at http://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details.asp?ID=13244
I wanted to make sure there was no misquote; sounds to me like GWB was just stating what the Muslim faith celebrates during Ramadan.
Thanks James, I think you're right.
Couldn't have said anything better than what has already been spoken on.
thanks for posting that... GW has done no wrong by saying this... now if he had have said that Jews and Christians everywhere need to realize that Ishmael was Abe's son, instead of Isaac, then he would have been in the wrong...
oh... thanks... cos someone posted at another forum that Bush is a Baptist.
"Islam traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. And Ramadan commemorates the revelation of God's word in the Holy Koran to the prophet Mohammad -- a word that is read and recited with special attention and reverence by Muslims during this season."
So, you admit that Arlen Specter would not be expected to acknowledge Jesus as Lord at Christmas or Easter, but it's OK for Bush to say that Islam is rooted in God's call to Abraham and that the Koran is Holy and is God's revealed Word at Ramadan.
Explain to me how this works...is Christianity a second-rate faith not deserving of the respect to be given to Islam? Or, is it just that Bush, being a Republican, is above even questioning no matter what he does?
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[ January 29, 2003, 08:41 AM: Message edited by: Pennsylvania Jim ]
President Bush is a born again Christian and, in my opinion, acts Christ-like in what he is trying to do in the office of President. (shock) He does not have to be a Baptist to go to Heaven. It won't be ANY denomination that meets us in Heaven; it will be Jesus Christ. 'Nuf said!
Oh Sue, when I grow up, I want the gift of speech that you have