Tom recently described the SBC, and his church, thusly: -Main Question: Is this a positive state for an individual church, or a group of churches as a whole, to be in? I for one would say yes, as it also described my church. (also SBC) -Icon responded to Tom with this statement: -If I am reading Icon correctly, it seems he would say that this is not really a good state for things to be in, as it means the Cals are not being direct enough in their attemts to convince everyone else of the truth and importance of their beliefs. (if I have mis-read Icon, I appologize, but I'm sure there are others who would say this as well). -If you are Cal, should Cals force the Cal issue in their churches and denominations? -If you are non-cal, should we simply form separate churches and conventions for the Cals?