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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by JesusFan, Dec 13, 2011.
is he seen as being a good and reliable bible teacher?
Still? I when was he ever?
That would obviously depend on the one doing the seeing...
My question is: What is it you don't like about Him?. Could it be that he isn't a Calvinist?
He is! In fact he is a man with only one wife. It is my understanding that she divorced Him.
In fact, he is my favorite Bible teacher of all of them who are currently on TV...
read many of his books....
was just curious if others viewed him in the same light or not?
Dr Stanley is a fine expositor and wonderful Bible teacher. There are critics...but eveybody has critics.
I think Charles Stanley has good teaching techniques and is a good expositor. However, there are two things you should keep in mind when listening to Charles Stanley.
1. Charles Stanley believes in a different doctrine of eternal security than most doctrine of eternal security believers. As with Zane Hodges, he believes a True Christian can stop believing in Christ and even if he still is not believing when he dies, he still goes to heaven. When he says OSAS, he is including those who stop believing (as per his book entitled "Eternal Security" published in 1990 and 2002). You can find this in the 8TH chapter of his book entitled "For Those Who Stop Believing".
2. Charles Stanley was saved in a Pentecostal Holiness Church many years ago. This denomination stresses sanctification and the second work of grace. He has said that those who do not believe in the doctrine of eternal security, do not really know if they are saved. That is not true. If apparently was true in the Pentecostal Holiness Church he came from; but in general, most Christians who don't believe in the doctrine of eternal security are just as sure of their continued salvation as are eternal security believers. I will give him the benefit of the doubt assuming that he does not know any better, since he came from the Pentecostal Holliness environment many years ago.
Again, Stanley is good at teaching. Just keep the above two things in mind while listening to him.
Would he be one of those considered "Evangelical Arminian" an "arminian 4 pointer"?
I am not familiar enough with those classifications to determine that.
Oh yes he no doubt is.
This is true. I have a book by him in which he states this. I believe it's called the Christian Handbook. I love his teachings, but I don't agree with this one.
This is NOT to discuss this point any further, as banned from the Board, but believe he also holds to millinual exclusion doctrine also....
I think he is wonderful and gifted pastor/teacher. And I have the same respect and admiration for his son Andy (my pastor/teacher).
I like Andy too! :thumbsup:
Amy, we are a "Strategic Partner" of Northpoint. We are currently doing a series (about 3 years old to Andy) called "An Unexpected Christmas", it is a wonderful series and I recommend it, if you have time to give it a view. Here is a link, if interested.
Thanks Quantum. I'll check into that.
BTW, we have a Papillion, Malti-Poo and a Chihuahua mix
Rusty, Sophie and Miles.
Nobody is familar with them! It's another label that JF has made up!!