Is China Quietly Dumping U.s. Treasurie's ?

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  1. betterthanideserve

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    A sharp drop in foreign holdings of US Treasury Bonds over the last five weeks has raised concerns that China is quietly withdrawing its funds from the United States,leaving the dollar increasingly vulnerable.(in other words economic warfare)
    I have been trying to tell folks to get ready for an economic reversal,if you have selfdirected IRA's please think about transfering them to precious metal IRA's you can do so without tax or penalties by investing in Gold or Silver bullion. Talk to Robby Noel.......

    Or you can leave them in a completely uncertain market and trust what those that will profit from your selling low....tell you...


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    It's a most interesting disclaimer at the bottom of the linked page.

    I always get suspicious when somebody feels a need to tell me something like that, because it's what I would do anyway.

    Regardless, I do love the sensationalism of the question, "Is China quietly dumping US Treasuries?" Oh, no, the sky is falling!

    In the linked article, we find this.

    IOW, China thought it would be a better idea not to commit financial suicide. The Chinese gov't even suggesting that they would try to trigger a crash is a rather amateurish diplomatic move. In fact, it's not diplomacy at all, it's bullying.

    Move along, folks, nothing to see here.
     
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    Regardless, I do love the sensationalism of the question, "Is China quietly dumping US Treasuries?" Oh, no, the sky is falling!





    IOW, China thought it would be a better idea not to commit financial suicide. The Chinese gov't even suggesting that they would try to trigger a crash is a rather amateurish diplomatic move. In fact, it's not diplomacy at all, it's bullying.



    Nice of you to give an opinion,but I have been saying this for over a year,and once again you and others have said China has nothing to gain,when in fact they do.
    I don't think that it takes a brain sturgeon to see it either. They are doing fairly well with us owing them over one trillion dollars,not missing it at all.
    It wouldn't be financial suicide for them to dump the dollar,but would be a well thought out political plan of attack,financial war...
    Crash the economy of the US and cause hardships to come upon the american public,but alas we have the whole plan after all,(the need ) for a stronger currency the amero.........
    I wonder if there are any Globalists surfing the baptist forum?
    You think that there may be?
    Just here to refute anyone proposing an idea that may contain too much truth ?



    Oh let us not forget_____ all is well in america,low unemployment,(McDonalds is always hiring)forget the fact that there is not much being made here anymore,we are a service oriented economy after all.
    What will happen when we have nothing that we produce that we care to buy?
    Our cars are being made in China and Japan,but all is well,our doctors are all from the asian countries but all is well,no worries,our trade deficit is far below what we sell to other countries but all is well,no worries ,countinue to sleep for :ALL IS WELL"

    Once again I must Shout!"'WAKE UP LEROY! A TRAIN IS COMING DOWN THE TRACK AND I DON"T WANT YOU TO GET HIT BY IT!"
     
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    I don't understand why the globalists insist on all the incrementalism. I mean why go to all the bother of engineering another market crash to switch the North American currency to the Amero when they'll just have to engineer another market crash to bring out their one global currency? Blaming it on China would be a nice touch though. It would keep the eyes of the "world" off them for a bit longer.

    Seems like a waste of time and effort to me. Why not just crash the economy and go straight to the mandatory RFID chip? At this point only a very few would resist and they could be crushed easily with the global police state they already have in place. Guess it must go back to the old Machiavellian mentality...make everyone think of you as the hero, when in fact you are the villian.

    Problem Reaction Solution. Some things never change.
     
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    #1, there are plenty of cars and trucks being made in the U.S. #2, not all doctors are from Asian countries. #3, my name's not Leroy. :wavey:
     
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    I don't want to think that China is "taking over" bit by bit but I did want to add something I have noticed at work and I don't like it, but I am guessing it's always been this way...

    I work at a Hospital and most of our products come from outside countries. I have often wondered what kind of treatment we could give if we stopped getting things from outside the USA.

    Again, I am not buying into this theory about China, but our supplies and the country they mostly all orginate from is a bit werid.

    Jamie
     
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    Obviously it is time to invade Iran.
    Iran is a hand puppet for Red China.

    BTW, how many unmarried Chinamen are there
    now? I'm thinking 200 Million by 2020.

    Here seem to be China's choices:

    1. marriage = one woman, two men
    2. marriage = one man, two men, maybe four
    3. go find 200 Million extra women -- the Muslim
    countries should work. Actually you only need about
    50 Million extra women, 3/4 of the armies would be
    casualties.

    Mat 24:21-22 (KJV1611 Edition):

    For then shall be great tribulation, such as was
    not since the beginning of the world to this time,
    no, nor euer shall be.
    22 And except those dayes should be shortned,
    there should no flesh be saued:
    but for the elects sake, those dayes shall be shortned.

    the three Greek words translated 'for the elects sake"
    are just as likely to be translated "because of the elect",
    i.e. it is the elect snatched off the Earth in the
    Pretribulation Rapture/Resurrection who are in heaven
    watching the Tribulation Period on Earth who appeal
    to God to spare some flesh.

    You know When I got saved in 1952 it happened at
    Revival held by a Pre-tribulation Rapturist, I figured
    that God was going to get those bad guys one of
    these days & I didn't want to be one of them.
    But about 1964 was the first time mankind could do
    the Tribulation Period bad stuff WITHOUT HELP FROM
    GOD -- I'm talking Nuclear war (etc.) that would
    erase at least all human life from earth, maybe all
    life???
    So then I saw: God has planned a Tribulation Period
    to eternally save a maximum number of elect Jewish/Israeli
    Saints -- lGod will keep us from destroying ourselves.
    (a note on recent disarmement: the nuclear bombs on
    the face of the earth have been reduced from 22 times
    what it takes to kill everybody to a mere 3 times what
    it takes to kill everybody. Only God can save humanity.

    Day of the Lord = when God interferes with Humanity
    (to save them from them
     
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    AMEN, Brother Ed. :applause:
     
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    This is really simple,show me one so-called american automobile that is not at least 50% foreign.
    Never said that there were not doctors that were not other than asian,although I find it to be a sad fact that our troops are wearing uniforms made in MEXICO!,berets that are made in CHINA! ETC underwear that are made in GUATAMALA! ETC<if you can't see the results of an unbridled grab for the dollar in this corporatism they call free enterprise,oh well close your eyes and go back to sleep.:sleep: Maybe there will be one or two that will see the truth,and have the synapses in their brain fire (I pray that this happens)
    Anyone listening? don't beleive me (look at the facts)and make your own mind up ,but do so prayerfully,time is running out..........


    GOD is pleased to show the truth to those that seek it,seek the truth and you will be free indeed!




    P.S. your still LEROY to me!
     
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    This is really simple. Here's what you said before.

    When called on it, you decided to change your argument.

    Now, which argument would you like to stick with?

    Wrong. It's exactly what you said.

    Like it or not, you said all doctors. Perhaps you should be more precise in your arguments before making them.

    I see a lot of corporations that are trying to make the most money they can to satisfy their shareholders, who are those people who invested money in said corporations and are trying to make money themselves. You see a huge conspiracy in this.

    Apparently, I'm awake enough to see the holes in your arguments. If you want to make a case against what you see as corporate greed, then make your case. Make it coherent. And stop implying that you're smarter than everybody else.

    You're not taking the hint, so let me be direct. I would appreciate it if you used common courtesy and addressed me by my username of ccrobinson. Other acceptable alternatives include "cc" and "ccr". Your cooperation is appreciated.
     
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    So sorry cc and or ccr ,I am not impling that I am any smarter than you are,I can't help it if you think anything of the sort. so sorry that I got you all worked up , and your still (courteously thought of ) on my part Leroy..............


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    B-T-I-D, if there was a idea proposed by you that contained 'too much truth', I for one didn't see it in there. In fact I didn't see any plan at all, other than to get off the railroad tracks.

    What's your plan? After all, you said it doesn't take a brain sturgeon.

    I know nothing about macro economics, so I'm here to learn.:thumbsup:
     
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    Tell US niteshift
    Whats your plan?
    Why is it that anytime someone talks about globalism,the cfr, the"INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM"you all seem to come out of the woodwork?
    Ready willing and able to attack the messenger with personal attacks but never really refute the message?
     
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    As I said, I'm not an economist, I don’t have a plan, and was waiting to hear yours....


    But will put out a few facts for you to mull over –

    It is true that the U.S. national debt is the world's largest. But when the debt is looked at as a % of GDP it is considerably less now than in past years, such as during World War II. And by this measure, it is also less than those of other industrialized nations such as Japan, and equal to those of several Western European nations.

    For quite some time, the US has been the world’s largest importer of goods, while at the same time being one of the top three exporters of the world.

    US imports more from Canada than from China, or any other nation for that matter.

    The trade deficit with China has grown something like tenfold over the last decade. However, the increase in imports from China reflects a shift away from imports from other Asian countries, (Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Singapore, and Taiwan) and not an increase in total imports.

    The US is the number one customer of companies all around the world. China’s economy depends mostly on exports, and especially exports to America. It seems pretty unlikely that they would try to wreck their #1 customer.

    "Trust, but Verify"
     
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    Not sure if you're going after me here, but, if you are, show me where I attacked you personally. If you aren't coming after me, I'd still like to see where anybody else is attacking you personally.

    A valid question has been asked of you, "Whats your plan?" I assume that you not being able to present one means that you don't have one and just want to complain about the big, global conspiracy that you see.

    Fine. Do you have any answers about the foreign cars statement you made, or the all doctors statement you made, or are you just going to imply that my response was an emotional one that had nothing to do with the so-called "facts" that you stated?
     
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    CCR< My plan is to tell people that they are losing their country incrementally.
    I have no plan of attack if thats the question,the fact is that this nation is under attack from within.
    I also did not say that there was anything wrong with helping other countries come away from third world status,but it is wrong when it is done at the expense of american,sovereignty.
    I know that you will disagree with my explanation,and thats alright,there IS a
    BIG global conspiracy,and because you either refuse to admit it or just don't see it is not in my control.
    So if you like continue to ask for my plan,I haven't one
    I will not let my kids and grandkids inherit an america that isn't worth having,if I can help it.
     

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