Is Drinking, Smoking, and Dipping a Sin

Point taken. So the "others"--did they think the Apostles were drunk?

'Cause someone really thought they were drunk on the new wine, or Peter's response, "For these are not drunken, as ye suppose..." would just be silly.

 

FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS PURE AND HOLY AND TRUE.....


SHUT UP!!!

since you're my brother in Christ, we can have these sibling rivalries. But you should have followed my lead and bowed out of this thread a long time ago. Reread some of your posts telling us about your sound doctrine...as if you've got it all together. **Insult removed** Some Christians need this kind of talking....I've needed them tons myself.

aauugghh...maybe it is time to stop spending so much time in in a web forum.

 

whew....where did that come from? Sorry about that....some kinds of arguments drive me up the wall. This is one of them.

 

I personally don't believe so. I believe it was a hollow accusation. But remember that there were thousands that were present. Because the accusation was public, it had to be publicly refuted. Slander must be squashed. Also the Holy Spirit is the author and it was ultimately written for our benefit as well--giving us more of a total picture.

 

So Peter was wrong with the "as ye suppose"? That is, no one actually supposed such?

 

No, Peter answered as a gentleman, diplomatically, without malice.
He knew that they were mocking him, for it clearly says: "Others mocking,"

 

Indeed, they were picking at the "drunk" guys--the ones they supposed were drunk. Surely, if you can tell two thousand years separated from the events that they didn't really think Peter and co were drunk, then Peter standing right there could tell, and would have rephrased it to something more truthful (being led by the Spirit of truth and all) like, "...drunk, as ye say...".

 

Ah, so we're not just blasphemers, we're cults! Any other ways you want to pigeon hole us? Any other names you want to call us?

 

I also find his reply interesting. He didn't say, "Of course we aren't drunk! Alcohol would never stain our holy, pure and perfect lips, blasphemer!" Instead, he said, "We're not drunk. It's only the third hour of the day!"

 

All Peter needed to do to prove their accusations were false was to tell them the men were not drunk and point them to the hour of the day... reminding them that it was not common for people to get drunk on forbidden wine at so early an hour of the day.

And it was not any kind of admittance that they would get drunk later either.

 

I've said the same thing. If drinking were sinful, they would have had the perfect opportunity to state as such.

 

30 pages...

Please put another futile thread to rest, mods!

 

I'm not drunk. After all, it's only 8:30pm where I am.

Now, how do you suppose 99% of the people who read that would interpret it? Don't bother, it's a rhetorical question.

 

Pretty thin ice to decide which were the majority, and which were the minority, I would say.

And frankly, I don't greatly care on which side one is on in this. I've got enough "to worry about" beside this.

And as the moderator of my local church, I'll second webdog's motion.

Ed

 

Thank you for the compliment, whether or not I deserve it.

Ed

 

Now ths is what I call "sound exegesis". NOT! This has no bearing on whether or not the facts you have cited are correct, for basically they are, but don't we get our exegesis from Scripture, and apply it to 'worldly facts', and not the other way around?

And I am a teetotaler, BTW, not even knowing what beer or most wine tastes like, although I tasted some wine some twenty years ago.

Ed

 

I wonder if anyone else bothered to read this link you provided?

Ed

 

Since you like to throw around the word blasphemy around quite freely, I would say the closest thing I have seen to that state above anything I have read in this thread is he who claims to be without sin for 24 hours.

Your theology, reasoning, and posts do not line up with the Gospel. I hope you are enjoying your flowing robes, places at the dinner table, and recognition when you pray.

 

My posts may not line up with your gospel, but they are in line with the Word of God.

 

Baloney, they line up with your warped theology.