Is God always willing to help with every problem we have?

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  1. ajg1959

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    On the creation thread, SBCpreacher said:

    "Way I've figured, neither way is going to present God a bigger problem than He can handle"

    I would like to believe that God is willing to help me with every problem I have, but right now I have bigger problems than I have ever had in my life. And i dont have anyone except a few caring christian folks that have never even met me that even care about my problems.

    Do you think that we (and I mean born again christians) ever can create so many problems in our lives that God just washes His hands of us, and leaves us to our own mess? Even when we call on Him for help, do you think He ever just says "you created this mess, you clean it up". Does God ever deny us the help we need and ask for?

    I know God CAN handle every problem ....but do you think He actually does?

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    AJ, it's good to hear from you! Believe you me, there are more than a "few" people who care about you!

    To answer your question, Romans 8:37
    37 Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. 38 For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, 39 nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    We are His sons, AJ...would you do that to your son? I know how much you love him, and He loves you more than that! Remember the prodical son, no matter what mess he made for himself, the father was waiting...no...ran to him with open arms to embrace him!

    My pastor used the analogy one of a beautiful tapestry. Underneath, it looks like a bunch or garbage, with loose threads all over the place...it makes no sense. BUT...when you turn it over, it's a beautiful work of art. While we are here on a fallen planet, we can only see the underside of the tapestry of life. One day we will be able to see what the other side looks like, and it will all make sense!
     
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    My answer is from Scripture, Jesus will never leave you nor forsake you and he is the same, yesterday, today, and forever. The thing is this, he is with you, but looking from the big picture, you may need to go thru this to trust in him more. In other words, his will may not be your will.



    Heb 13:1-8 Let brotherly love continue. (2) Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. (3) Remember them that are in bonds, as bound with them; and them which suffer adversity, as being yourselves also in the body. (4) Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (5) Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. (6) So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. (7) Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. (8) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
     
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    Ok, yes I know He promises to "never forsake" us, but I take that as more of eternal security than as an earthly promise.

    I believe that the bible teaches us to be obedient to recieve earthly blessings. Can I have been so disobedient that I have no earthly blessings left?

    I believe that i am going to heaven, but could it be that I have messed up so badly here on earth that God is done with me until I die and stand before Him?

    AJ
     
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    Thanks Webdog...as you can see, I am looking for some hope here.

    I love the Lord so much, but I have been so disobedient for way too long.

    I am a complete failure and now I have lost everything that i loved in this world. It is just hard for me to accept that God wants to help me through this when I have been as bad as i have.

    I can tell you this much....if I could go back in time, I would never, ever take my eyes off of God. I have learned the hard way that what we have here and what we love is so fragile, and that it can dissappear in a second.

    I really need God to help me if I am going to carry on, I am just having a hard time believing that He would, or even should do anything for me after the way I have lived and denied Him.

    I have never felt this miserable and low down in my life.

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    AJ - can you find an example in Scripture of God giving up on someone?

    Webdog pointed out Romans 8 and it's SOOOO true. When we stray or do our own thing as believers, God will allow us to reap the consequences but He's standing there with us through it. But I do not ever see a time where God will turn His back on a believer. He is our Father no matter what we do - in this world as well as the next.

    What you are experiencing is the valley of the shadow of death. It's SO hard but we know that He is still with us through that valley. It's so dark that you cannot see anything - cannot see a way out - cannot see past your nose. That is when we need to just trust in the Lord that He will not lead us astray. Keep focused on Him. Not on yourself, not on other people, not on circumstances but on Him. What you knew of the future is not there anymore but there IS a future for you - a future of hope, restoration, ministry and finishing well.

    Keep me posted, OK brother? E-mail me though - my PM box is just about full. :) Nah - you can PM me just fine but if you want to e-mail me, I don't have to worry about emptying the PM box. My e-mail is easy to remember - ann at nbc dot org

    Take care brother and do not lose hope.
     
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    I act as though everything depended on me, knowing that God is there all the time.

    Peter had his woes and he walked with Christ. Paul gave us God's truth and he had something called a thorn in his side and he had to live with it for his lifetime. Stephen was stoned!. Look at Job..He was righteous. God said so, yet he suffered great losses in life. In the end he did not fault God, but said he knew that he would see God in the flesh.

    This Christian life is not a cowards walk. It is a courageous journey in Him and for Him. We are simply His messengers and along that path are obstacles, tests, trials an tribulations........Yet He is always there with us.

    If you think the Christian life is tough, try pastoring a church or working in missions. The trials are legion, the accusations galore. It is no cakewalk, yet we endure unto the end in Christ's name and for His sake.

    We are not our own. We have been bought for a price. If Jesus could give His life for me, the least I can do is surrender my life for Him.

    Look up and away, mate. Up to Him and away from self. Let nothing in this world set you aside. He gave us life; live it.

    Cheers,

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    Did God give up on jonah after jonah's continued disobidience and rebellion? I have read it many times, and some preachers say that Jonah actually died under the gourd from the sun and wind that God sent.??????
     
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    Well, we can't say what happened after the book ends since God didn't tell us but look at what He did to bring grace to a very rebellious people. God does not give up AJ. I know that. Hey - if He can put up with me, He can put up with anyone. ;)
     
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    yep, I can relate to jonah. he was disobedient to God, but yet he got mad when God showed mercy to others.....Iam guilty of that myself.

    The whole story of jonah is encouraging to me though because if you read God's instructions at the beginning of the book, and then read God's instructions after jonah repented, it is almost word for word the same. God's plan didnt change no matter how much jonah rebelled.

    Its just that ending that bothers me. Am I still at the point where God's will and His instructions for my life havent changed? Or am I laying under a vine that is fixing to dry up and die and expose me to the wind and the hot sun?

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    Jonah

    4:3.."Therefore now, O Lord, take, I beseech thee, my life from me; for it is better for me to die than to live.

    4:10 Then said the Lord, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night.............NO mention of Jonah taking his life or dying!

    Perhaps Jonah's real ministry was the foretelling of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection to life.........and along the way Nineveh benefitted from hsi obedience to God.

    Cheers,

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    Jim, you sound like one that may suscribe to the belief that Jonah actually died and was resurected, thus foretelling the future of Christ?

    I am wondering, I just pm'd someone on here and my life and jonah's made me think of Luke 14;26, and some other scriptures by paul where it is taught that we must die to our old life, or be willing to forsake our old life to serve Christ.

    Is all this somehow tied together? Am I dieing to my old life? Is God getting ready to use me?

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    Reworded, this is saying, I would like God to do my will, and herein lies the heart of every sin.

    The Scriptures state plainly that all things work together for good to them that love God, and that all things in our lives are the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning us.

    Our focus is accepting and doing God's will, not whether He will do ours.

    I don't know what your problems are. Judging from the O.P. it seems that your problems may be of your own making. If that's the case, here are some things that might calm your heart about God's concern for you:

    It is good for me that I have been afflicted; that I might learn thy statutes. Ps. 119:71

    Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees; And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed. Heb. 12:4-13

    As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. Rev 3:19

    No one can tell you whether God will solve your problems. He may never remove them from you, but the fruit of righteousness your exercises are bearing will teach you to thank God for them and trust that His purposes of Redemption in you are being accomplished. When we can come to the point where we can say with Job, Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him, then we begin to understand the will of God and what it means to be a Christian.
     
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    Thank you Aaron, and yes, most of my problems are self inflicted.
    AJ
     
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    AJ, No, Jonah did not die. He wanted to die after he unwillingly did God's will for his life. The sign of Jesus is Jnah's time in the belly of the great fish prepared by God for Jonah whn he was thrown overboard.

    Sometimes God takes us through the fires of tribulation as He prepares us for a ministry. It is not a cakewalk for everyone. The verses I quoted showed Jonah's trial, wish to die, and God's response: Jonah lived.

    Cheers,

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    I agree with you from what I know about jonah, but this idea that he died in the belly of the whale and rose again in 3 days is gaining momentum with some pastors.

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    There is absolutely no evidence that Jonah died and it would be pure speculation. The only other mention of Jonah is in I Kings...I think...and then in the NT relating to Jesus' 3 days.

    Cheers,

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    AJ, If I may, one of the best investments you could make at this stage in your life, is the book, The Fight by Dr. John White, InterVarsitypress. It is inexpensive (about 10 dollars US) and available on line at InterVarsity Press.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    I believe there is a need to repent but it sounds as if you've done that. Next, just close your eyes and visualize taking ALL your worries and problems off YOUR back and onto HIS back. He is the Way, the Truth, and the Light. Without Jesus, we (all of us) are nothing and have nothing. He is our ONLY hope. The GOOD NEWS is He is always up to any task and He loves each one of us as His own.

    Now go to this web site and rest on Him.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYFjikyp7mQ
     
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    I don't agree that you need to be obedient to get God's blessings. God blesses whom He so chooses. Yes, our faith should produce good works and we are called to obey God, but God has sometimes blessed me when I have not been a very good person! Many times!

    Once you are a child of God through faith, God is always loving you. If you think you have not been walking with the Lord, and you repent of that, you are forgiven. You can never mess up so badly that God won't forgive you.

    Anything that comes to believers comes through the filter of God's love. If you were now rebelling, God might let you suffer the consequences or discipline you. But Hebrews 12 says that God disciplines those whom he loves!

    But if you are repentant, you are forgiven. If you are having trouble believing you are forgiven, read some scriptures about that and trust in what God says. You are forgiven.
     
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