Is God big enough to keep me saved?

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  1. uhdum

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    With all the talk about Eternal Security, the idea comes up that one can lose one's salvation.

    My question is this: Is God big enough and strong enough to keep me saved?

    I am sure that everyone regardless of your belief on eternal security will immediately exclaim, "Sure, God is bigger than anything."

    Then my second question is this: Does the idea of "falling from grace" then take away God's power and supremacy? Does "falling from grace" invalidate the idea of "No man shall pluck them out of my hand?"

    Just trying to understand where those who deny Eternal Security are coming from...

    God bless!
     
  2. donnA

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    It depends on whether or not a person believes Jesus died for all their sins?
    It depends on whether or not a person thinks they are perfect and do not sin. Because if you could loose your salvation, then which sins and how many would make you loose your salvation? And who decides,and how do you know?
    It all depends on who we believe God is. It's all about God, not about us.
     
  3. Helen

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    My question is this: Is God big enough and strong enough to keep me saved?

    Yup.

    Not only that, He accepts the responsiblity for it

    Philippians 1:6

    and has predestined that all those who are saved will be conformed to the image of Christ

    Romans 8:28-30

    What we can lose is rewards in heaven, not our salvation. Even those who are saved who teach wrong doctrine will be in heaven...as the least...

    Matthew 5:19
     
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    uhdum,
    this grace passage you arte speking of is in Gal. 5:4. Here is what it says.
    Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

    This has nothing to do with someone returning to sin or anything else. It covers those people who claim that salvation is not totally by grace. These people are works salvationists and these people are fallen from grace. It is not that they once believed the truth on an individual bases and then changed their minds to believe that they needed works, but it is dealing with those who crept in and were claiming that grace was not enough to save them. They taught that people also needs to keep the law for salvation. Paul makes a strong warning to them that those who teach such thinhgs are fallen from grace and cursed. So I assume that you are not in this bunch and believe that a person can lose their salvation unless you want to admit that you are also cursed with these false teachers in Gal.

    [ March 09, 2004, 07:45 PM: Message edited by: freeatlast ]
     
  5. pinoybaptist

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    by Helen:


    There you go. That's what I meant by theology neither saves nor damn you, in another thread.
     
  6. superdave

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    I would place some fairly significant caveats on those statements.

    If someone is trusting anyting other than Christ's cross work, and God's grace, than they are not saved, and will not be in heaven. There are areas of doctrine that are non-essential, the doctrine of salvation is rather important.
     
  7. Helen

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    I agree with you, superdave, especially in light of Paul's admonition to Timothy in his first letter to him, 4:16. Doctrine doesn't save, but wrong doctrine can lead to confusion and fear in people's lives and that certainly will not win any rewards in heaven.
     

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