Is having a church always necessary?

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Is having a church necessary?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. Not sure.

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  4. Depends.

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  1. xdisciplex

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    Does a christian always have to be a member of a church even if he doesn't really know where to go to? Or what if a christian doesn't feel comfortable in churches?
    Or what if a christian has made negative experiences with other christians in the past and because of this he's scared to get involved with other christians because he doesn't want to make bad experiences again?
    I just ask myself if it is not also possible that there are times where there is only God and no other christians. Can this not also be "fruitful"?
    Or does the bible demand that a christian is always in a church no matter if it's helpful or not? For example if there is only a church where the people act strange and it drags one down then where is the sense of having to go there and being dragged down?

    Sorry, I just saw that I posted this in the wrong forum. Please move to other chr. denoninations
     
  2. J.Wayne

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    Going to church is important for several reasons:

    * 1st...the church is something God wanted and extablished on earth. It's a place He's made for His people to come together and learn about Him and serve Him and worship Him.

    * 2nd...it's a place for you to find Christian fellowship and people who can help disciple you.

    * 3rd...it's a place for you to get to know God and His Word and a place where you can be encouraged.
     
  3. donnA

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    Heb. 10:25
    not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another,

    we are to join together for worship, learning, encouraging each other.
    You have to learn to get along with other christians. I guarantee it isn't all them.
     
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    Yes and I concur with what J Wayne and Donna have said.:godisgood:
     
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    I already feared such an answer. But what do I do if there is no church where I feel comfortable? Does this mean that I cannot be a christian if this was the case?
    I simply don't like being around people in general, it makes me feel uncomfortable and it's not different with christians, especially christians which I don't know. :(
    And when I talk about uncomfortable I mean being tempted. When I'm around christians which appear strange to me or act goofy then it's an attack on my very own faith because then I think that maybe all christians are simply strange people which cannot be taken seriously and this is not good.
     
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  6. donnA

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    Yes, you should have expected this answer, it's the same answer you got last time you asked this.
    What you need to do is pray God will help you be able to go to a church and learn to be comfortable. You will not suddenly get comfortable and brave and them go to a church. It will happen gradually once you start going. If you want spiritual growth, obedience, and be a part of the community of God your going to have to got to church. Your going to have to get over it and simply go. Go because of God, because He is worth you feel uncomfortable for a while till you get used to it, because you desire obedience. And stop judging people you don't even know haven't even met, simply because someone christian has in the past let you down or hurt you. No one is perfect, not even you, no gets it 100% right 100% of the time, even you, we all mess up, even you. How do you want to be treated when you mess up, when you fail? Well, treat others the same way. Right now your full of hurt, unforgiveness, and pride that your the only one right, and you shouldn't need to go around other christians. Do some praying, deal with it and get over it and go on to obedience and growth.
     
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  7. xdisciplex

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    You're right. But I'm still really scared if this is the right word. It may sound dumb but I don't know if I can do this. I also don't know which church I should go to and I would also rather be an anonymous visitor and not directly get assimilated and then have to join.
    And since you mentioned obedience do you think that I go to hell if I do not join a church? :eek:
     
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    I don't think it sounds dumb at all. When we've been hurt, and apparently you were hurt bad, then it's natural for us to be scared of a repeat. But in Christ you can over come this and be able to move forward. As you are, your stuck in one place, in reality you are allowing those who hurt you to control your life.
    I agree, when going to a new church I'd rather be anonymous too, untill I decide I might want to be a part of that church. Don't join any church until your ready. And don't be pressured to join. Pary, just go to one, visit a few times, with lots prayer, try several, with prayer. Give God a chance to show you love through His people.
    No your not going to hell for not having a church yet. Anyone who is saved, born again is not going to hell. Even christians can be disobedient, but it grieves the heart of God, think about it, so you want to continue to grieve the heart of God with disobedience, I don't think you do.
    Spend time in prayer about how you feel, and go out and be obedient, even though it might be scary. God will give you the strength you need, after you act, not before. Do you think it is always easy to obey God, or that He only asks us to do things that are easy, that no one else is ever scared to obey God becasue of where or what He gives them to do. No, I think everyone is scared at one time or another.
    Just do it. How long have you been teling us about this? A long time. It's time you did something about it. And becasue fo the way you feel right now, give a church more then one try, give them a chance to show you not all christians are like the ones who've hurt you in the past.
    I'll be praying for you, you do it by the end of March. then you come and tell us about it.
     
  9. Joe

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    I don't like being in crowded room either so church can be difficult for me at times. I hear you.

    Maybe getting invovled in a smaller church, or joining a small group within the church would be eaiser. Less people.
     
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    We went to our church for 6 months before we did anything more than go, listen and leave. We needed to sit back and wait before we began to get involved in anything.

    Pray that God gives you the strength to get through your fear. He will do it.
     
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    But let's say that there is only one church in your area and this is either a charismatic one or a strange one which is lead by a female pastor and both of the churches do not really seem right to you then would it still be better to simply go there instead of being alone? I mean I wonder if God insists in such a case that you simply go to a church no matter if it actually helps you spiritually or not. Because actually having a "bad" church can also mess you up and only lead to confusion which is definitely not good.
    My problem is that I neither want a wild church where strange things are going on but I also don't want to totally conservative church where God isn't involved in anything. I'm afraid that the church which I like doesn't exist.
     
  12. The Scribe

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    You have some good points. A church without sound doctrine, a female pastor, or a homosexual pastor wouldn't be good to attend.

    So, what type of church are you looking for?
     
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    I almost agree. Let me explain. Although it has become part of our language, the phrase "going to church" is unscriptural. (I don't just mean that the particular phrase is not found in the bible - there are plenty of phrases that are not in the bible we use to describe Christian things. "Missionary outreach", "Sunday School", "sound preaching", "door-to-door evangelism" to give just a few examples). Christians don't go to church. Christians are the church. It is a great pity that our language tends to use the word "church" for a building in which Christians meet for worship. Nowhere does the bible do this.
     
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    I voted no. Most of you have a free society in mind, where having church is not a problem. However, there are brothers and sisters in Christ just across the border from me who have no such freedom. They can not come together as a church lest they be reported to the government and be thrown into a gulog.
    I'm referring to North Korea.
     
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    The church is a WHO (the believers) not a what (place)!
    Where does it say in the bible that the church is a place?
    I had thought the we (Born again, Holy Ghost filled, blood bought believers) are the church and this means that we (the church) are the one's that Jesus died for, He did not die for a "place".
     
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    So basically "going to" a church is not really a requirement but you should at least meet with christians on a regular basis, right?

    I think that just going somewhere and listening and being a spectator is much less effective than having a small group where you know the people and can interact with them. But of course this also depends on the group itself.

    @ The Scribe

    I don't know. I don't want a too conservative church but also not a church which is too liberal.
     
  17. Angie

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    I have not been inside a a Church in a really long time. There are two reasons why.
    1. They always want to know where my Husband is. Somehow that is my problem not his. And they seem so taken aback when I tell them the truth that he is in bed.
    2. I have a low immune system and someone always thinks that they have to be there even when they are sick. I can not afford to get sick.
    So I watch a preacher on TV.
     
  18. J.Wayne

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    Psalm 122
    A song of ascents. Of David. 1 I rejoiced with those who said to me,
    "Let us go to the house of the LORD."
    2 Our feet are standing
    in your gates, O Jerusalem.

    3 Jerusalem is built like a city
    that is closely compacted together.

    4 That is where the tribes go up,
    the tribes of the LORD,
    to praise the name of the LORD
    according to the statute given to Israel.

    5 There the thrones for judgment stand,
    the thrones of the house of David.

    6 Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
    "May those who love you be secure.

    7 May there be peace within your walls
    and security within your citadels."

    8 For the sake of my brothers and friends,
    I will say, "Peace be within you."

    9 For the sake of the house of the LORD our God,
    I will seek your prosperity.





    Psalm 26:8
    8 I love the house where you live, O LORD, the place where your glory dwells.


    John 2:17
    17His disciples remembered that it is written: "Zeal for your house will consume me.

    Acts 2:46,47
    46Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,47praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.


    Hebrews 10:25

    25Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.




    Church is most definitely a place, and to say other wise is refutation of God's Word. It is a place where two or more gather to worship and praise God, be it where ever, in one's home, in a building constructed for that purpose, or a mere speck of ground on which those stand together.



    Isaiah 14:25

    25 I will crush the Assyrian in my land;
    on my mountains I will trample him down.
    His yoke will be taken from my people,
    and his burden removed from their shoulders
    ."

    God's plan for us to be a part of a group of people who love Him and want to see things so His way. And if there is no place to gather then God simply wasted His time, according to those who claim church is not a place.

    Romans 12:4-5

    Ephesians 5:23

    I Corinthians 12:12-14 "For in fact the body is not one member but many"















     

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