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Is intolerance a sin?

Discussion in '2003 Archive' started by Joseph_Botwinick, Jul 2, 2003.

  1. John Wells

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    Amen Major B!

    I've been accused recently of being intollerant. I thank God that I am intollerant of what He is intollerant of, and I'll never cave to the secular humanistic worldview of many false believers today! I prefer the biblical worldview!

    Jesus' intolerance in the temple is called "righteous indignation." That is not a sin (obviously - Jesus was without sin). When properly applied, righteous indignation and "tough love" will have a greater impact and a more positive influence on a "practicing sinner" than condoning their excuses for their behavior. The later is largely to blame for why polls show the problem of sin to be about the same inside and outside the church! :eek:
     
  2. Gina B

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    Where do you get the idea in the U.S. Constitution that they do not have a right to?

    Also, can some of you people get it through your skulls that to say someone has a legal right to do something is NOT the same thing as saying it is Biblically okay for them to do it? For example, I understand that is legal to be a prostitute in Las Vegas, but that doesn't make it Biblically okay to be one.
    </font>[/QUOTE]The laws of this country were founded on biblical morals/principles. It's ALSO sad that we're at a point where even Christians do not believe that the bible should have anything to do with the laws of the land! The U.S. Constitution? LOL! It doesn't say you're not allowed to spray paint a police car or not commit murder or that we must follow the speed limit either.
    Gina
     
  3. gb93433

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    To be tolerant of someone would imply putting up with a person. But God has called us to love them. Loving a person means we give them the truth. 1 John 3:18 says, "Little children, let us not love with word or with tongue, but in deed and truth."

    Prov. 11:30 talks about that a person who wins souls is wise. Certainly a person who is not winning others to Jesus I would doubt is very wise.
     
  4. John Wells

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    "I am not concerned whether God is on my side or not, but I am concerned whether I am on God's side." - Abraham Lincoln
     
  5. Watchman

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    KenH:
    For example, I understand that is legal to be a prostitute in Las Vegas, but that doesn't make it Biblically okay to be one.
    This is really trivial, I know. I agree with the rest of your post whole-heartedly. It is sin city, but not this one: prostitution is illegal in Clark County, NV (which includes Las Vegas) and also in Reno. It is legal elsewhere in NV.
    Before anyone else does, let me be the first to say that this is really a dumb thing to correct. Somehow, just couldn't resist. Please forgive.
     
  6. Jamal5000

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    When I think of the word intolerate then I think of someone who will not allow or support opinions or viewpoints conflicting with his own opinions and viewpoints.

    In regard to following Christ and in accord with the above definition, I do not see intolerance as a sin as long as it does not break the peace of the body of the church.

    Paul said in Galatians 5:20 that we as Christians should stop angrily disagreeing, get rid of differences of opinions, and resist the forming of minority groups that create unrest in the church body. For the sake of peace, we should NOT tolerate this kind of behavior.

    On the other hand, I think that unity refers not to holding the exact same opinion but rather to holding the same conviction about Christ as the Savior. If someone disagrees with you on a certain detail, then we SHOULD tolerate their different opinion. If we disagree with these little points then we make a unnecessary fuss.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Dr. Bob

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    Probably the best book on the subject. The New Tolerance by Josh McDowell
     
  8. Mark Osgatharp

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    "I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil."

    I make two observation on this, Jesus' approval of the church at Ephesus:

    1. They were intolerant.

    2. They were intolerant of evil persons, not just of evil in the abstract.

    There might be some further debate as to how, or how not, our intolerance should be expressed, but that we should be intolerant of evil people is beyond all controversy.

    Mark Osgatharp
     
  9. HankD

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    I am INTOLERANT of this thread!!

    It is much to do about nothing!


    [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] Just kidding.

    As someone else said: it's WHAT we are intolerant of (sometimes we can't help it) and then it's HOW we express that intolerance that makes it a sin or not.

    Especially the expression of our intolerance, we can win or loose our brother concerning the way we express our intolerance.

    How would you feel without the smilies?

    HankD

    [ July 06, 2003, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: HankD ]
     
  10. Mark Osgatharp

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    HankD,

    There is a time to smile and a time not to smile. If I am speaking out against evil and do so with a smile it softens the seriousness of the matter.

    I think the best way in which we can stand against sin is with tears in our eyes. However, since it is not always possible to have that, the next best thing is to speak with as much sobriety, gravity, and sincerity as possible so it is understood by all that sin is not a light or joking matter.

    Mark Osgatharp
     
  11. John Wells

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    I agree with the Apostle Paul's brand of "Tolerance:"

    It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? (1 Corinthians 5:1-2) :eek:

    I think we could insert "A man lies with another man. And you are proud!" and Paul would respond the same way. That some pastors like Joshua "are proud" to have gays in their congregation and not even confronting them with their sin is in itself, "tolerance that is a sin."
     
  12. Dr. Bob

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    AMEN. That'll preach, John. Excellent application of the scripture to the present area of debate.

    Remember, though, that liberal theology would not interpret the Bible as you have. Hence they would disagree with you, based on the same Bible as we have.
     
  13. Mark Osgatharp

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    Dr. Bob,

    No, they would disagree based on their rejection of the same Bible as "we" have.

    Mark Osgatharp
     
  14. HankD

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    Dear Mark,

    True, there is a time for everything:

    1 Kings 18:And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.

    HankD
     
  15. Ed Edwards

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    Actually there is more
    variant doctrine due to various reading
    of the King James Authorised Bible
    than all modern versions put together.

    Jailminister: "If you are not being
    whipped then He is rejecting you."

    Song rewrite [​IMG]

    Jesus loves me, this I know
    For He beats my body SO!


    Sorry, but i have a hard time
    tolerating such cult teachings [​IMG]
     
  16. Mark Osgatharp

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    Edifier,

    Well try this one then:

    "If you are without chastisent, whereof all are partakers, then you are bastards, and not sons."

    That's found in the Bible.

    Mark Osgatharp
     
  17. John Wells

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    If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons. (Hebrews 12:8)

    That's so much nicer than that "authorized version!" :eek: :D
     
  18. HankD

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    Or as one of my kids said :

    "the 'B' word is in the Bible!?"

    HankD
     
  19. Mark Osgatharp

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    JohnWells,

    Since when was not being a bastard supposed to be a "nice" thing? Being a spiritual bastard was such a horrible state of existence that Christ had to suffer the gory death of the cross to adopt us into His family.

    Thank God He was willing to do so!

    Thank God I'm no longer a spiritual bastard!

    Mark Osgatharp
     
  20. Ed Edwards

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    We should value and respect all members
    of the BB.

    We should focus on common interests and shared
    problems rather than rights and conflicting
    positions.

    We should share information openly and freely.

    We should build trust and treat each other as
    equals.

    We should give prirority to sustaining the BB.

    [​IMG]
     
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