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Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by SaggyWoman, Aug 30, 2009.
Is it a sin to sit and eat with "publicans and sinners"?
No, it is not a sin. Now standing and eating or squatting and eating, that's a different story all together, as long as you are sitting that is ok.:laugh:
also, sitting is not OK if it is in your car and you went through the McDs drive through. Actually, I think all of the McD's menu would have been against the Hebrew dietary law
Jesus sat and ate with publicans and sinners, did Jesus ever sin?
There used to be a poster on here that would do things the other way:
He would decide that this was a sin,Jesus did not sin, therefore Jesus really didn't do whatever it was.
But of course it is not a sin to eat with publicans and sinners.
There are times where you might sin while doing so of course. If you are expected to get drunk for instance, that would be a problem but in itself it is not wrong.
There seem to be a few folks here that reason like that. Whatever they believe, everything has to square with that, regardless of what the scriptures say. :BangHead:
Matt 9:10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
Now, this does not say Jesus sat down to eat with publicans and sinners, it says they sat down with him. Whether they ate or not I do not know. But I know that Jesus never sinned.
Jesus wore their condemnation as a badge of honor. Most certainly not a sin.
Why the question? Is there a story behind it?
I think it depends on the intent of why you are there.
Jesus did so that he might speak to them of salvation, not to party in the sense the publicans and sinners understood. He had a purpose for what he did and when he did it.
Second, another place it can be a sin is if a person is under the discipline of the church in which we are forbin to eat with them.
OK, the rest I can agree with but this portion lost me.
Are you saying that getting drunk can be a problem but not a sin?
I think he means the getting drunk is the sin - but not the sitting with them.
Now, if you had asked, is it a sin to sit and eat with republicans and sinners, you might have gotten a different answer.
If that is true, I can agree there... with the respect to where we are eating, as this might have some affect on my testimony.
:laugh: I don't care who y'are, dat righ dere is fu-u-uunny!
Are you asking if it's a sin "to sit and eat with fellow Baptists"?
Only if you refuse the fried chicken.
I would fit in quite well. :thumbs:
Does this apply to casual contact outside the church or only to allowing them to participate in the Lord's supper?
Good question! No I have to think in order to tell you what I mean
Depending on how one takes the passage. Many see it referencing both with casual relating to your testimony and what you appove, and with the Lord's Supper being more severe as it is the church on the whole either agree with their behavior or not. I am speaking of 'casual coming together' in the sense of intimacy equating with approval.
But let me clarify, when you say 'casaul contact' I am thinking something along the lines of saying hello, asking for prayer, etc.. However to sit down to eat, with a brother in Christ (not a known sinner who does not believe) it is a more intimate act and thus seen as more a matter of approval toward them.
You know, that is what I meant!
By casual, I am speaking of, "hey lets grab a burger and talk about what's going on in your life". As opposed to a come over, bring the family, and spend the afternoon together.