Is it a sin to vote for a pro-abortion candidate?

trying, it is an issue, but it is by no means the only issue.

Look, I've voted for prolifers for years. Abortion is still the law of the land...

 

Who says it's not a real issue? It is a real issue, but it is not the only issue to consider. To vote for someone just because they spout out the words "I'm a Christian" is an issue for me. It's an issue I hate, because anyone can spout that...I mean, look at John Kerry and Bill Clinton. They claim to be Christians, but their fruits don't show it.
In our particular case, we voted for a man who knew what he was talking about instead of some bozo who didn't and hadn't even gotten a partial clue as to what was going on though he'd been in politics for 10 years. I would rather have a person who could get things done and who would represent his people well than someone who claims to be a Christian and couldn't even begin to represent the constituency. Just because someone is a Christian (or says they are) doesn't mean they use their noggin'!

 

I did not say that it is the only issue. But for me, as I compare the slaughter of the unborn with other issues, that largely concern money, either taxes of how tax revenues are spent, I have consistently decided that defending the unborn is the over riding issue.

Perhaps you could give me a list of issues that, even combined, are more important. I would be hard pressed to give you such a list. </font>[/QUOTE]Rather than that, why don't you explain to me how all the votes I have already cast for prolife candidates have done any good at all?

 

I don't believe that I have said anything about basing a vote on whether someone says that they are Chrisitian. I am asking about voting for someone who is pro abortion. Look at a candidates voting record on the issue and it's pretty easy to see who supports abortion. Listen to a candidates talk and some times you can spot who supports abortion.

If you are misled by a candidate concerning his position on abortion that is one thing, but to vote for someone who is clearly on the side of abortion, to me, is something else.

Would a vote for a candidate who advocates 100% free, federally funded abortions for anyone at anytime be morally correct? Would that vote be helping someone else to obtain an abortion? </font>[/QUOTE]I would vote for a candidate who advocates abortion if he were the best person for the job. I'm sorry, it might not be the most popular position, and it may tick some people off, but I would rather have someone who can in all validity represent the people they are sent to represent. Abortion is one issue. If that is going to be the only issue in voting, I believe it is wrong, because abortion is not the only issue that affects our country nationally, state or locally. God knows what issues are on the table, and to simply vote for someone based on their being a Christian, especially if they are inept, is just plain stupidity mindless of the voter. This person could do far more damage than a pro-choice candidate.

 

What is "more damage" than allowing and advocating the killing of babies???? Who'll be next? The elderly? The infirm (that's already starting)?

 

Dear friends, this might be of interest for you.

Blessings,

Chuck D. Pierce

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Greetings! Several days ago around 3:30 AM, the Holy Spirit woke me up. As I came awake, I realized I was moving forcefully against an occult shield covering one of the presidential candidates. For the next hour I continued to obey the promptings of the Holy Spirit to nail this dark shield and break it wide open so the real spiritual character of the candidate could be seen by those seduced by a high level spirit of sorcery. Then, I called a close friend and high level intercessor and found out she is carrying the same burden in the Spirit.



Because we cannot openly endorse a political candidate as a minister of Christ, we cannot tell you the name of the candidate. However, I can tell you this with respect to how the Holy Spirit would have us understand from Heaven's viewpoint which of the two candidates for president the Lord endorses. It centers on one issue which is a life and death issue: abortion. How our nation prospers or becomes the object of God's wrath and thus is made desolate centers on this, the most important issue. All other issues, although important, become secondary. The issue of abortion is more than just about killing an innocent life. It is about magnifying the defilement of and the continuing of the spiritual pollution of the entire landscape of America through the bloodshed of the innocent. This is the one issue which prevents God from inhabiting the land with His people as stated in Num 35:33-34:

So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it. Defile not therefore the land which ye shall inhabit, wherein I dwell: for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.



The rage of the masses which are anti-God in the nation and anti one of the candidates allows the occult forces of darkness to merge with the personal issues of the candidate and strengthen the shield around the candidate. This rage is, in a very real sense, false worship. The door opening spirit for sorcery surrounding this candidate is the spirit of divination or false words; these two together open the way for witchcraft or false authority.



Because the Holy Spirit has given us this mission, we, as First Nation believers in the high authority of King Jesus, give it to you as well to partner with us to break the occult powers trying to influence and ultimately control the future direction of our nation by breaking this shield around this candidate. We also give you the following Psalm to under gird you as we push forward in the power of the Kingdom of God.



Ps 2:1 WHY DO the nations assemble with commotion [rage, uproar and confusion of voices], and why do the people imagine (meditate upon and devise) an empty scheme? 2 The kings of the earth take their places; the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and His Anointed one (the Messiah, the Christ). They say, 3 Let us break Their bands [of restraint] asunder and cast Their cords [of control] from us. 4 He Who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord has them in derision [and in supreme contempt He mocks them]. 5 He speaks to them in His deep anger and troubles (terrifies and confounds) them in His displeasure and fury, saying, 6 Yet have I anointed (installed and placed) My King [firmly] on My holy hill of Zion. 7 I will declare the decree of the Lord: He said to Me, You are My Son; this day [I declare] I have begotten You. 8 Ask of Me, and I will give You the nations as Your inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth as Your possession. 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them in pieces like potters' ware. 10 Now therefore, O you kings, act wisely; be instructed and warned, O you rulers of the earth. 11 Serve the Lord with reverent awe and worshipful fear; rejoice and be in high spirits with trembling [lest you displease Him]. 12 Kiss the Son [pay homage to Him in purity], lest He be angry and you perish in the way, for soon shall His wrath be kindled. O blessed (happy, fortunate, and to be envied) are all those who seek refuge and put their trust in Him! (AMP)



We are not advocating standing against a human personality, but against the forces of evil. The Spirit of God has given us the most powerful spiritual weapon in all the universe: God-Life. Death cannot stand where God-Life is made manifest. It is the believers privilege to release this Life in specific manner to overcome all elements of evil. Therefore, to overcome this spirit of sorcery we must begin with the spirit of divination. Begin to release God-Life to both candidates through the BLOOD judgment of Christ; release God-blessings on both and God-Truth. Through the Blood of Christ break the shield of the occult forces: "I (we) break the occult shield of evil around (so and so) in Jesus name. We cancel and the break the occult power of all divining words sent out in the name of Christ as the Truth of God. We bring into the Light the divining words of evil spoken to seduce the people of America and the world and expose the lie hidden in them."



Be led of the Spirit, but also mobilize others to do this highly important spiritual work; be greatly blessed today in King Jesus looking upward and forward to see His Kingdom coming into our nation in this hour.



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Exercising Our Earthly Citizenship: A Doorway for the Advancing the Kingdom of God



One of the most important responsibilities we have as citizens of the United States of America is the privilege to vote. The privilege to vote is not free; it has been paid for by the blood of the multitudes of lives given in the struggle for freedom; by the many who have worn the uniform of our armed forces; by the multitudes of African-American and other minorities who struggled for the recognition of their civil and human rights; and by the lives of a multitude of women who likewise struggled for freedom granted to them in the US Constitution.



I am Native American and during the Vietnam War I was one who wore the uniform of the US Army as a point-man for C Company, 2nd Battalion, 12th Regiment, First Air-Cavalry Division; I count it a privilege to vote as a citizen of the United States of America.



Voting or exercising citizenship as members of the nation however, is so much more when Christ Jesus enters the picture. Many true believers in Christ erroneously presume that becoming a Christian somehow elevates them above what is seen as the dirty field of politics. Thus on Election Day they refrain from exercising their citizenship privilege to vote. Politics however has become the dirty field it is precisely because of this erroneous practice of Blood-bought saints of God.



From our First Nation and the Kingdom of God perspective let us show you what exercising our voting privilege really accomplishes in the Earth Realm. First, we must shift our spiritual heart over to the reality of the Kingdom of God through the Blood of the Cross of Jesus Christ. Through Christ alone we have been translated into the Kingdom or the Domain and Rule of King Jesus. Now we are not just citizens of an Earthly nation, but we are first and foremost citizens of the commonwealth of the Kingdom of God. As citizens of Gods Kingdom, we must walk, live and be led by the Holy Spirit of God. This means that all actions and decisions of our will must be made in harmony with the Will of God made clear by the Holy Spirit.



Our Earthly citizenship becomes for us a doorway to legally express our Heavenly citizenship in the Earth Realm. Our two-fold citizenship, Earthly and Heavenly, connects both realms of the natural and spiritual. Thus the act of voting for the candidate of our choice if first made in harmony with the Holy Spirit becomes a doorway to express the specific Will of Gods Kingdom on Earth. When we cast our vote as led by the Holy Spirit, our voting then becomes an act through which God can legally enter into and influence the social and governmental spheres on the Earth. This makes every vote cast by a true, Blood-bought believer in Jesus Christ, an intercessory act empowered by the Holy Spirit.



Every check mark we make on the election ballot becomes a doorway through which the intercessory Act of God can legally enter the entire arena influenced by the political realm. When these check marks are magnified by all of Gods people, this intercessory act releases the synergized authority and power of Gods into all facets of society impacted by elections.



So please allow through prayer and fasting if necessary the Holy Spirit to empower you to rise up as responsible citizen of the Kingdom of God on the Earth, direct your choice for the candidate of Gods choice, and then help you see your voting act as a doorway to release God into the Earth Realm. After you vote, lift up a high praise of thanksgiving in your heart unto God. May the Lord bless you and reveal to you Gods choices for public office in the election year.



Jim Chosa
Day Chief Ministries, Inc.
Box 7552
Yellowtail, MT 59035

 

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