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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Rebel, May 22, 2015.

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  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    The above is not historical Baptist Doctrine and not the current doctrine of the SBC. So I agree with Rippon.
     
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    You're entitled to your opinion. Everybody has one, and Baptists make doctrines out of theirs.

    At least you're not nasty like Rippon.

    But let me ask you something, and please try to be objective. I believe in every one of the historic Baptist distinctives, so if I'm not Baptist, what am I?
     
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    What Baptist distinctive allows for women in ministry? Did I miss it?!?
     
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    None. Apparently Rebel believes in the Baptist Distinctives and women clergy (separate issue).
     
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    Oh my, what a surprise........lol.
    More reasons to endear myself to the SBC! :rolleyes:
     
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  9. Earth Wind and Fire

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    How's that!?! And the SBC sustains them????? REALLY.....what's next, Homosexuals in the pulpit?!?
     
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    It is up to the Local church to decide what it wants to do.
    Then it is up to the local association to decide if they want to continue fellowship with that local church.
     
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    But it's up to discussion ...oh boy! Or is that girl:thumbs:
     
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    When one merely states that tah* holds to Believers' Baptism and a few "Baptist Distinctives" it is not equivalent to orthodoxy. There are a lot of conservative Presbyterians who do not adhere to "Baptist distinctives" yet are far more orthodox in their beliefs --i.e. sound in the faith --biblical.







    *Tah -- Chinese pronoun for he, she or it.
     
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    Then why the infant baptism and Sabbath practices?
     
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    Taking God's name in vain is a violation of the ten commandments.
    This will not help you.
     
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    With these ideas maybe you could blend in with the Unitarians, or the Bahai faith. They seem very affirming:thumbs:





    Bahá’u’lláh and His Covenant

    The origins of the Bahá’í Faith and the source of its distinctive unity


    The Life of the Spirit

    The eternal soul, the purpose of life, and the development of spiritual qualities


    God and His Creation

    God, revelation, humanity, the natural world, and the advancement of civilization


    Essential Relationships

    The development of relationships among individuals, communities, and institutions that reflect the principle of the oneness of humanity


    Universal Peace

    The principles required for the attainment of peace and the building of a new global civilization
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    And the Unitarian;

    The Unitarian Universalists Association (UUA), one of the most liberal religions, encourages its members to search for truth in their own way, at their own pace. Although Unitarian Universalist beliefs borrow from many faiths, the religion does not have a creed and avoids doctrinal requirements.
    Unitarian Universalist Beliefs

    Bible - Belief in the Bible is not required. The Bible is a collection of profound insights from the men who wrote it but also reflects biases and cultural ideas from the times in which it was written and edited.
     
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    I don't know whether to take you seriously or not. I don't know whether you intend to insult or not, but I will assume not.

    Anyway, I believe in the deity of Christ which puts me out of Unitarianism, and the bodily resurrection of Christ which puts me out of the Bahai faith.

    As I said, fundamentalists of the right have a problem with me, and so do fundamentalists of the left.
     
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    The only discussion by the association would be if they wish to dis-fellowship the church. The Association has no authority to ordain or defrock a person.

    From the SBC website:
    Baptists have long held the principles of congregational self-governance, self-support, and self propagation. Local churches select their own staff, ordain their own ministers, ...” (SBC Constitution, Article IV, emphasis supplied


    And from another SBC link:
    Within the Southern Baptist Convention, the licensing and ordination of ministers is a local church matter. There is no denominational ordination service. The list of Southern Baptist ministers on www.sbc.net/ministersearch is simply a compilation from the reports of the churches and is the responsibility of the churches to update. Since the SBC is not a church, it cannot ordain or defrock ministers; nor does it maintain a list of "certified" ministers. Ministerial certification is the role and responsibility of each local church.
     
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    I can see it now, another denomination is about to be born.
     
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    From whom? You?
     
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