is it right for men to post in forums moderated by women?

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  1. timothy 1769

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    is it right for men to post in forums moderated by women?
    isn't this an example a of lady having authority over a man? how about in a christian forum? should a christian lady exercise authoiry over her brothers in this way?
     
  2. dianetavegia

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    This is NOT a church.

    Diane
     
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    The scripture you are talking about are proper church activity, the order of authority in church. As far as I know the BB has not been declared to be a church.
     
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    What about a man working under a female manager? Isn't it the same thing?

    I don't even notice who the moderator is when I post. Male or female, doesn't matter to me.

    Cheers,

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    It is worth noting that any moderator on this board holds his or her office at the invitation and discretion of the Webmaster. I hasten to point out that our Webmaster is most definitly a male. So, we are dealing with a case of derived responsibility and authority.
     
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    isn't all authority derived from god? if so, wouldn't your argument make all the scriptures dealing with authority between men and women of none effect?
     
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    1Timothy 2
    11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.


    it appears that paul is appealing to a general authority of men over women. are there any scriptures limiting this general authority only to church matters?

    13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    note the scriptural support given relates to foundational issues of creation. seems strange then, that this would only apply within each local church.

    15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

    again, this seems to be a more general comment, having nothing in particular to do with the local church.
     
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    As long as the ladies don't object, sure.


    If you take the verse literally, it applies to within a church. This ain't a church. Furthermore, the authority implied is not a matter of one gender telling another gender what to do or not do.


    Still ain't a church.

    There's no biblical ban a women or group of women having authoritative privileges on a Christian BBS.
     
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    You are so right Timothy, not only should you not post, you should not read any posts by women, nor should you read any post in a forum moderated by women. I would hate for you to so defile yourself by learning something from a woman.

    I guess you will have to give up shopping, using your computer, and doing anything in modern society in general as women are in places of authority througout society.

    Back to the cave with hand made weapons for you!
     
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    Originally posted by Jimmy C:
    you should not read any posts by women

    why? what does that have to do with authority?

    nor should you read any post in a forum moderated by women.

    why?

    I would hate for you to so defile yourself by learning something from a woman.

    i would hate for me to defile myself by despising the word of god.

    I guess you will have to give up shopping, using your computer, and doing anything in modern society in general as women are in places of authority througout society.

    i guess i'm not following you. how does any of those things place me under the authority of a woman?

    Back to the cave with hand made weapons for you!

    i hope you come back with some explanations and biblical support.
     
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    Dingdingding!!!! Very good point!!!

    You could get really ambiguous. What if you're a male, and in the church choir, and the music director is female?

    What if the mayor of your city is female?

    What if your college class president is female?

    What if you go to court and the judge is female?

    What if your senator or congressperson is female?


    C'mon, folks, I don't think this is what Paul was talking about.
     
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    No disrespect, but I think the question is about as silly as "should a mother have authority over her sons?".
     
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    If you take the verse literally, it applies to within a church.

    where does it literally say that? the "within the church only" idea appears only be an interpretation, so far (on this thread anyway) without any obvious (to me) biblical support.

    if time allows, please critique my analysis above, preferably with scriptural support.
     
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    What if one of us 'women' gives a scriptural answer and you learn from it....... Oh Dear!

    This is NOT church! Do not return to legalism!

    Diane
     
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    Sorry timothy

    I did not think that you were serious in your post, my reply back was mostly tounge in cheek!

    Good luck though on avoiding all cases of women having any authority over you!

    I have been blessed by my associations of "women in authority", in the church and in the workplace.
     
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    Originally posted by Jim1999:
    What about a man working under a female manager? Isn't it the same thing?

    Originally posted by Johnv:
    Dingdingding!!!! Very good point!!!

    i don't know, maybe there shouldn't be any female managers, along with all the other things you described. at this point i personally wouldn't take a job under the direct authority of a female manager.

    You could get really ambiguous. What if you're a male, and in the church choir, and the music director is female?

    perhaps she shouldn't be the one in charge?

    What if the mayor of your city is female?

    good point. should i move? perhaps this falls under romans 13?

    What if your college class president is female?

    switch colleges?

    What if you go to court and the judge is female?
    What if your senator or congressperson is female?

    romans 13 again, perhaps.

    C'mon, folks, I don't think this is what Paul was talking about.

    please convince me [​IMG] if there's anything i'd love to be wrong about, it's this. but pointing at the world and how it chooses to do things, or pointing out how difficult this could make my life isn't very convincing [​IMG]
     
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    as children within her home, of couse. as grown men, of course not. if my position is so silly, there must be great arguments with clear biblical support to oppose it.

    so please present them [​IMG]
     
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    You want a spriptural reference about women with authority over men? How about the Book of Judges.

    4 Now Deborah, a prophetess, F44 the wife of Lappidoth, was judging Israel at that time. 5 She used to sit F45 under the palm R75 tree of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country of Ephraim; and the sons of Israel came up to her for judgment. 6 Now she sent and summoned Barak R76 the son of Abinoam from Kedesh-naphtali, and said to him, "Behold, the LORD, the God of Israel, has commanded, 'Go and march to Mount Tabor, and take with you ten thousand men from the sons of Naphtali and from the sons of Zebulun. 7 'I will draw out to you Sisera, the commander of Jabin's army, with his chariots and his many F46 {troops} to the river Kishon, and I R77 will give him into your hand.' " 8 Then Barak said to her, "If you will go with me, then I will go; but if you will not go with me, I will not go." 9 She said, "I will surely go with you; nevertheless, the honor shall not be yours on the journey that you are about to take, for R78 the LORD will sell Sisera into the hands of a woman."
     
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    What if one of us 'women' gives a scriptural answer and you learn from it....... Oh Dear!

    This is NOT church! Do not return to legalism!

    Diane
    </font>[/QUOTE]feel free to excuse yourself, but i don't see this kind of informal information exchange qualifying as "teaching", which implies a relationship of authority and subordination.

    if you have some good scriptural support for the "only in church" idea, please provide it, assuming you feel comfortable doing so.

    i don't see how attempting to obey christ in everything qualifies as legalism.
     
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    No disrespect intended Timothy, but this type of situation can be a real problem if common sense is not used in interpreting the Scripture.

    I have worked for female bosses, and I even have a woman Sunday school teacher at church. Before some of you collapse at this shocking news, let me say that she does so with the approval of the pastor and the church. I do not personally have a problem with this; if I did, I would leave the church.

    I also have a question. Should a woman lead a man to Christ, or would it be better to allow him to go to hell in order to uphold the traditional understanding of these Scriptures?
     

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