Is Muhammad Movie a Contrived Fraud?

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  1. poncho

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    Bizarre story behind film that supposedly sparked middle east unrest.

    An anti-Muslim film that has been blamed for the attacks on U.S. embassies in Egypt, Libya and Yemen is likely a contrived fraud designed to stir up unrest in the Middle East while shielding the true reasons behind the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens.

    A trailer for the film, entitled The Innocence of Muslims, has been on You Tube for over two months. Despite the alleged film maker’s claim that the movie was funded by rich Jewish donors to the tune of $5 million dollars, it has all the quality of a low budget film school project. The trailer has now been banned in several middle eastern countries, including Egypt and Afghanistan.

    Indeed, the full film itself may not even exist, a doubt that has also been shared about the existence of its shadowy director Sam Bacile, who told the Associated Press this week that he was a 56-year-old “Israeli Jew” who lives in California, despite telling actors on set that he is Egyptian, while others have claimed he is an American.

    Bacile claims he made the film to illustrate how “Islam is a cancer, period.”

    However, numerous authorities have failed in attempting to locate a ‘Sam Bacile’ residing in California. Bacile is likely a pseudonym for the only real person who has been positively connected with the movie – Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, a 55-year-old Coptic Christian living in California who was convicted for federal bank fraud in 2010.

    The movie itself – or the 14 minutes of it which have been released – is also highly suspect. Actors involved in filming were told “they were appearing in a film about the life of a generic Egyptian 2,000 years ago.” Following the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, all 80 cast members put out a joint statement stating that they were misled by the producer.

    “The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer. We are 100% not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose,” the statement says. “We are shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred.”


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  2. InTheLight

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    What took you so long to post a conspiracy theory? It's been over 24 hours....
     
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    I was waiting for you to become informed. Yeah I know waste of time, huh? :smilewinkgrin:

    You keep showing how far behind the information curve you are every time you try this lame attack. It doesn't work like it used to friend. People want to be informed and a guy like you repeating the same old cliche over and over isn't going to stop them doing it. Seems like you'd have figured that out by now. Become informed or be left alone, In The Dark.
     
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    Simple math and logic. Not every terroristic event, every economic crisis, every industrial accident, every assassination, every contrail, every <you name it> can be a conspiracy. And if they are, I'd say these 'elite power brokers' are a pretty feckless bunch of twits if they control events yet haven't been able to take over the world in over 200 years!
     
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    Rome wasn't built in a day either.

    If you were to ever become informed you'd find that tyranny like totalitarian governments never happen overnight. It's a slow creeping process that people become accustomed to little by little till the boot heel is grinding in their face and they all say what you are saying now and those in the past like yourself always welcome the men wearing the boots that do the grinding as their saviors.

    History, you really should study it.

    History really does repeat itself, because people such as yourself choose to remain . . . In The Dark. :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    Oh, wise one, how long did it take for Nazi Germany to rise to power?

    How long for Italian fascism?

    The dictatorship of Franco in Spain?

    And now please explain how the Bilderbergers, CFR, Illuminati, yadda yadda yadda were in control in these situations.
     
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    I'll answer with one of your tricks. Asking more questions.

    What were the conditions that led up to all three?

    Why did the people accept these tyrants as leaders?

    Why do you accept fascism (corporatism) as a legitimate form of government? I only ask this question because you have proven over time to be one of it's biggest defenders.

    Why are you so afraid of finding out whether or not this film is a fraud? You seem to be doing everything possible to avoid addressing the question posed by the author of the article. Which is . . .

    Is this film a fraud?

    Why don't you stop wasting other reader's time and just answer the question?
     
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    ITL - this "conspiracy" is being picked up by the major news networks and some of the talk radio programs. The fact that the 80 actors involved are all saying they were duped; that they were to refer to the main character using a name other than Mohammed, which was later voiced over to be Mohammed; that no one can pin-point if the alleged film maker actually exists, or if his name is an alias for the Coptic Christian (who's the only actual film maker so far identified with the film)...not to mention the fact that there's no footage other than the YouTube footage....

    Well, this conspiracy actually has the makings of being true.

    Time will tell.
     
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    This 'conspiracy' apparently is about a film that no one wants to take credit for making and was edited in post-production. A bad movie was made under false pretenses. I'm failing to see the conspiracy here. What does it possibly have to do with Bilderbergers, CFR, etc.?
     
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    Why don't you tell us? You're the one who is trying to make the connection.
     
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    Why don't you tell us all the conspiracy behind a bad movie being made and nobody wanting to take credit for it? You started the thread. Finish it.
     
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    Because the story is still unfolding. It wouldn't be right to jump to conclusions now would it? :smilewinkgrin:
     
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    What more is there to the story? Either they identify the director/producer or they don't. So what?
     
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    Why don't we wait and see how it turns out instead of jumping to conclusions. That's all I'm saying.

    Isn't that the rational thing to do?
     
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    The Q'ran burning preacher in Florida might have bankrolled it.
     
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    Just heard on Fox that a British newspaper said the State Department had a warning of trouble 48 hours before the Ambassador was killed. Were these 4 men sacrificial lambs to boost Obamma's re-election chances?
     
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    So what positive conclusion do you think might be reached when all the facts are known? Terrorists killed American citizens and attacked embassies in various countries. What more detail do you need? Do you think the terrorists were planning a party for the embassy staff and the cake accidently exploded?
     
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    First, there's no evidence that a full movie was made. There's a 14 minute YouTube video that's supposed to be a trailer or proposal for a full-length film (at least, that's my understanding).

    Second, it doesn't have anything to do with the Bilderberger crapola. The question is, was this video made in order to create unrest, to cover up the assassination? Or did the maker of the film deceive the actors and obscure his identity because he knew it would create muslim unrest?
     
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    There is no rock that Prison Planet cannot find a conspiracy under.
     
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    The radical Islamists don't need an excuse for violence. I doubt that they would try to cover up an assassination. Usually you have fringe groups queuing up to take credit.

    The implication seems to be that a Muslim made a short video clip denigrating Islam and Mohammed in order to give Muslims an excuse to riot at U.S. embassies.
     

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