Is Palin a pro-life advocate?

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  1. LeBuick

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    I didn't believe an article I read saying Palin is pro-life only when it comes to her and her house but believes everyone deserves a choice. So I went to her website and found this response...

    So she had a chance to restrict abortions in Alaska but failed to act. I think two things, 1. she has sold out to her convictions trying to court the view of being a feminist or 2. she is just another politician when it comes to voting them to office on a pro-life position.
     
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    This is what was said in the longer interview sited on this web site. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26643098/


    MYERS: Interestingly as governor, she has not pushed the issue. There were times, for example, that members of the state legislature, who had anti-abortion bills to add more restrictions, wanted to bring those bills up as part of special legislative sessions on other issues. And Governor Palin said no. She has not proposed any added restrictions on abortion. And Alaska has some of the most liberal abortion laws in the country.
     
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    Wow!

    This woulds sure rock the boat a little.
     
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    It is as I have said in numerous posts. Politicians know they can do nothing about Roe v Wade ... but they will play the issue in the way they believe that it will get them votes.

    I remember when I was a kid hearing a preacher quote a politician on prohibition. The fellow gave a wonderful sounding reply to, "Are you against the sale of alcohol?" However upon examination of the answer which sounded so wonderful he had really said "yes" and "no." I guess he figured regardless of which side a listen was on he/she would hear what they wanted to hear and think, "What a fine fellow."
     
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    Definitely gets my attention.

    LeBuick, you didn't list a source. You listed a 1-sentence commentary. Those aren't facts. Of course, this is consistent with your intense dislike for Palin, and your willingness to post negative stuff about her (even if if it's conjecture, not facts)...next time, post substance.

    Having said that, though...I plan on following up on BB's post, because there could be something to it. There are some questions I think that are worth exploring:
    • Why did Palin "refuse" to take the restrictions? Were they bundled with pork, bad legislation, etc.? Or is her pro-life stance more slogan than subtance?
    • What was the context in which the anti-abortion measures were brought up? It does indicate that they were brought up in sessions on "other issues." Is that pertinent?
    Having said that, I'm not gonna give her a pass if she blew it on this issue. But quite honestly, I always follow up on anything David Gregory reports. You can always tell when he's molesting the truth...his lips are moving. So his credibility with me has a minus sign in front of it.

    BUt...if I find out that Palin is "playing" us on this issue...hoo boy, I'll be ticked. Severely.
     
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    Look at the source I listed.
     
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    FAILED ABORTION BILLS
    This year in Juneau, the state House passed two anti-abortion bills similar to overturned laws: one requiring underage girls to first obtain a parent's consent, and the other banning a rare procedure that some call "partial birth abortion." Critics of the effort said the latter was an attempt at a backdoor ban on all abortion, though legislators who supported it denied that.
    "Gov. Palin was ready and willing to sign those bills if they had ever seen the light of day. She made that very, very clear," said Debbie Joslin, president of Eagle Forum Alaska.
    Both bills died in the Senate, bottled up in the Judiciary Committee, chaired by Sen. Hollis French, a lawyer and Democrat from Anchorage.
    "I felt the bills were unconstitutional," French said.
    Palin never pushed him to let the bills go to a vote, he said.
    But Senate President Lyda Green, Palin's political rival, did.
    "She was twisting my arm on practically a daily basis to get them out of my committee," French said.
    The Senate is run by a bipartisan coalition headed by Green.
    Sen. Fred Dyson, R-Eagle River, is anti-abortion and not part of the coalition. He said he tried to force a vote on the bills through a floor maneuver called "rolling the chair." It didn't work.
    Palin may not have wanted to battle the Democrats over abortion because she needed their support for a natural gas pipeline project, said Geran Tarr, director of the Anchorage-based, abortion-rights group Alliance for Reproductive Justice.
    "She had to use her political capital to get the gas line project through, and I believe that's why we haven't seen her take on any social issues just yet," Tarr said. "She was not going to get any Democrats to vote with her" on the gas line if she pushed anti-abortion legislation, she said.....



    http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/518512.html



    Perhaps this shows BOTH sides spinning ? Where is the truth ?

    I still say she sets an excellent personal example.
     
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    She has the same position as many pro-choice supporters. She wouldn't personally choose abortion but she respects the right of other women to have one. That position is called Pro-Choice.
     
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    Perhaps, but I think it shows how easily the Alaskan liberals threw mother earth under the bus, as long as they were able to kill babies.

    I don't know which side to believe, on this one.
     
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    Notice it was the pro-abortion, democratic political opponent of Governor Palin that says she did not push the issue to a vote. About as unreliable a source as an Obama ad.

    "Pro-choice" is a devastatingly effective argument to many, and has been for decades. Never mind that we don't get to "choose" any other matter of life or death in our lives. We can't, for example, legally commit suicide or kill any other unwanted relative. What changes in the minute before and after the head of a child passes through the birth canal that goes from making it okay to "choose" to kill to murder?

    And since Obama has repeatedly supported the refusal of health care for infant survivors of abortions, should the "choice" deadline to kill be pushed back to...say...2-3 days after birth?
     
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    I think I heard that she was pro-life and anti-abortion in the interview with Katie Currick.
     
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    The web site in the OP is not officially her web site. In fact, it is registered to someone in the State of Washington. There are other web sites for Sarah Palin but nowhere on the cited web site in the OP or others did I see where they were her official web site. Her official web site is the Gov of Alaska web site.

    Now from On the Issues I found this:

    http://www.ontheissues.org/sarah_Palin.htm
     
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    Palin killed babies by not taking an aggressive stance against abortion. She doesn't believe in doing that as the article I posted says. She's pro-choice.
     
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    So in other words, she's as bad as you are, right ? I mean, since yer an Obama guy, your position is equally as reprehensible as hers, eh ?

    I don't trust your article, and I'm not sure I trust her argument, either.
     
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    The quote I quoted is from here site and I did link it in my post. These are her words from her site.
     
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    Wrong, look at the link in my post. It goes to Palin's site. That quote is her words with no spin since it's on her site.
     
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    That is not the site in my post. My link is her site

    http://www.palinforamerica.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=12&Itemid=28

    It even has her trade mar.


    Vice President of the United States Sarah Palin | © 2008 PalinforAmerica.com All rights reserved
     
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    So it looks like Palin is clearly pro-life. It is arguable that she could have done more for the cause in this past year with two bills that died in the Alaskan senate. The author of the article is suggesting it might have been because she needed the support of Democrats for the natural gas pipeline project.
     
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    OK, I'll say it again, since you didn't get it the first time around. That site is registered to someone in the State of Washington. The copyright doesn't make it officially her site, just that the copyright belongs to that web domain. There is nothing on there to indicate it is her official site. Anyone can put up the $ and pick a domain name. Gov. Palin's official site is her Governor as State of Alaska.

    In fact, here's another sarah palin site. http://www.palinforvp.com/

    Neither the one you listed in the OP nor this one I just listed are her official sites. Your OP is misleading.
     
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    I agree with LadyEagle that palinforamerica is a fan-site and not her official site. It doesn't look like she has her own campaign site besides www.johnmccain.com.
     

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