Is Putin a little "racist?"

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  1. righteousdude2

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    It's been my experience of the the last 25 years that Russians (and others from the Former Soviet Union) are ethnocentric. In most cases, it just means the individual is sensitive to the ethnic origin of others. In others, to American sensibilities, it turns into racism.
     
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    If I find out the answer, will you promise to start working your hateful rants on him? :laugh:

    You are so funny! :laugh:
     
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    Zaac, I refer you to my post #3 of this thread. Historically, the Russian mind set has started out with the defense of the Moscow Kremlin and anyplace beyond being the glacis or killing field.
    The thought is better the enemy burns Ukrainian (or other non Russian) villages. The thought process is more imperialist than racist.
     
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    Is Putin a little racist?

    Dunno, how tall is he?
     
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    If that's the case then we Americans aren't so different than the Russians after all.

    Our mind set starts out defending Washington, Pentagon, Military so long as the killing is done elsewhere. The thought is "we're so great" we can't be wrong.

    As we're being told it's not imperialist thought that drives foreign policy by all the corporate sponsored think tanks that formulate the talking points for the DC politicos and the corporate owned and sponsored media.
     
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    Poncho, do you know any Russians up close and personally? I do. And no, your POV is not the historic mind set. It is at best seventy or so years old. The Russian one on the other hand dates back to at least Ivan Grozny (the Terrible) if not Alexander Nevsky.
     
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    Let me rephrase that . . .

    As we're being told it's not imperialist thought that drives foreign policy by all the corporate sponsored think tanks that formulate the talking points for the DC politicos and the corporate owned and sponsored media.

    CLICK HERE

    That all depends on which version of history we're going by Squire. I believe my version is closer to reality. A lot closer to reality.

    I don't put much faith in the state approved and corporate sponsored version of history.

    BTW whether or not I personally know any Russians is beside the point. I don't have to personally know any Russians to understand that the average American will believe whatever the government (including the "educators" in the indoctrination centers called "public schools") and media tells us regardless of being buried under a ton of contrary evidence.

    America's foreign policy has been imperialistic since at least 1898. The American system of propaganda has been able to outclass Soviet and Russian propaganda mostly because of it's corporate sponsorship and American's willingness to believe that "we can do no wrong" and our leaders are protecting "our" interests.

    Newsflash . . . they do lie and they aren't protecting "our" interests.
     
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    Your points have been posited since the founding of the Republic. And I'm not arguing against their present validity. I'm only saying that the current form dates back to maybe WW1. The Russian form dates back to the 16th century.
     
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    The stereotype of Russian thinking is a person is Russian if:

    • They have a Russian family (surname) name.
    • They speak good Russian without a foreign accent. Bonus point for either a St Petersburg or Moscow accent.
    • They are Russian Orthodox, though being a member of the Communist Party is not held against you. Being an adherent to another religion\sect is.
    Alexander Pushkin is a good example. Pushkin is considered to be the father of Russian literature. However, his great grandfather was African. In the States with the one drop thinking, he'd be pigeonholed as an Black writer. Such is not the case in Russia.
     
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    Thanks for your insight. I happen to believe you provide a great opinion/view, based on history ....

    And I'd like to add that the next time a few of the board members who like to loosely toss the "racist" term at some of us conservatives, might instead just refer to our views as being "imperialistic!"

    Some imperialistic fits my views of the black lives matter movement much better :wavey:
     
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    FROM WOUNDED KNEE TO SYRIA: A CENTURY OF U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTIONS

    http://academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
     
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    If I were to trace American imperialism, I'd go back to the Continental Army's invasion of Canada during the ARW, then the takeover of Spanish Florida, the first murmurings of Manifest Destiny during the War of 1812 (the second invasion of Canada), the Texas Revolution, and the Mexican American War. The Spanish American War only marks the dawn of the modern era of American imperialism.
     
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    I had lunch with him just last week. Talked Gospel with him. It was well received.
     
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    Zaac, in all good conscience he would answer "No,I'm not." However, as I've noted, Russians tend to look down on non-Russians. Though, there seems to be a sliding scale. Fellow Slavs rank higher than non-Slavs. Orthodox rank higher than non-Orthodox (why Moscow backed the Serbs against Croats and Bosnians).
     
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    Sounds like we're on the same page again. :thumbs:
     

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