Is Satan already Bound

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Is Satan already bound up for 1000 years?

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  1. mandym

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    Rev_20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

    Is Satan already bound?
     
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    NO that after happens the retun of Christ and remains for 1000 years.
     
  3. Jim1999

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    If Satan wasn't biblically bound, you wouldn't be freely preaching the gospel.

    Cheers,

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  4. mandym

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    Then how do you explain this verse:

    1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
     
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    Me Thinks, He Roams, Looking to Devour Our Faith!

    The last time I went through a series of trials, and tests only demonstrated that the Devil and his minions are still free to poke, prod, test, trip us up, frustrate our efforts, and tempt our resolve to remain faithful to our Lord and Savior as we walk that rugged path.

    He may one day be bound, but, unfortunately, I think he is still free and up to his wiley old tricks in order to get us to think he is presently bound, for 1,000 years to boot, is just another bit of trickery and deception to cause our guard to be lowered!

    Therefore, as Peter warned, "Be well balanced (temperate, sober of mind), be vigilant and cautious at all times; for that enemy of yours, the devil, roams around like a lion roaring [in fierce hunger], seeking someone to seize upon and devour." 1 Peter 5:8, and Ephesians 6:10-12, "In conclusion, be strong in the Lord [be empowered through your union with Him]; draw your strength from Him [that strength which His boundless might provides].Put on God's whole armor [the armor of a heavy-armed soldier which God supplies], that you may be able successfully to stand up against [all] the strategies and the deceits of the devil. For we are not wrestling with flesh and blood [contending only with physical opponents], but against the despotisms, against the powers, against [the master spirits who are] the world rulers of this present darkness, against the spirit forces of wickedness in the heavenly (supernatural) sphere."

    These are but two of many verses in the NT that attest to the free range of the enemy we are fighting day and night. :wavey:

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    Amen!@ :thumbsup:
     
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    Then how do you explain this verse:

    1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
     
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    Amen, brother! :thumbsup:
     
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    I don't know, I haven't ever seen him walking around eating people, have you?

    I connect his binding with that same event of Babylon becoming 'a hold [prison] of every unclean spirit, and a hold of every unclean and hateful bird'. With the destruction of their earthly city, Jerusalem, the Jews had no more a valid viable religion to compete with Christianity, and their deception of the Gentiles in this regard ceased. As Jim said, the gospel has since been freely preached to the nations. The persecutions and relentless conivings and conspirings of apostate Judaism ceased, and the new covenant came down from heaven in all her glory as the New Jerusalem and all the Gentiles have since had access to her.

    When Peter penned the passage you quote the Jews were still actively resisting and persecuting Christianity at every opportunity.
     
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    A rather sophomoric statement. I asked a sincere and legitimate question. You seem to be unable to respond with maturity and grace quite frequently.

    And where in scripture does it suggest that Satan being unbound would inhibit the gospel being preached freely?

    It is not correct to paint all Jews in such a broad brush. Neither was it just Jews who were acting this way. Not that it has any bearing on the subject at hand.
     
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    I can't help it if you lack a sense of humor. Lighten up.

    You need scripture to suggest that?

    It's not correct to paint me the way you just have. I specifically said 'apostate Judaism'.
     
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    What you lack is an appropriate sense of response.



    Yes, like most Christians I refuse to make up doctrines on my own. I need scripture to support it.



    Here is your quote:

    "When Peter penned the passage you quote the Jews were still actively resisting and persecuting Christianity at every opportunity. "
     
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    Here is my preceding sentence:

    "The persecutions and relentless conivings and conspirings of apostate Judaism ceased, and the new covenant came down from heaven in all her glory as the New Jerusalem and all the Gentiles have since had access to her."
     
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    Apparently Satan and his minions are still alive and active in this world. I see he's hoodwinked some to think otherwise. This isn't the new heavens and earth, we'll all know when it really is, and he is not bound, but is active. No matter what Titus Flavius Josephus says. :)

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    Doesn't change what I quoted.
     
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    Satan may have physical affects on people (Lk 13:16) BUT he can perform only within the limits imposed by God (Job 1:12), and Satan will be totally destroyed by Jesus at the end. (Rev 21:10); his defeat was already achieved through Jesus' death on the cross (john 12:31; 16:11).

    It is Jesus sitting on the throne NOW. When Jesus returns to earth, it will be in full power and glory, with His saints. If you care to study what "being bound" means in Greek literature, it is not being tied to a pole by chains or even rope, but being restrained and controlled by the powers that be. Satan is bound now, else we could not freely reject him and freely live for Christ and preach the gospel.

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    There in lies your problem. Interpreting scripture by means of greek literature.
     
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    How else do you understand words and expressions in a foreign language?

    Cheers,

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    So in your mind the only context in which bound was used at this time in Greek literature or otherwise was as you say. I would also suggest that Satan has always been bound as God is sovereign and Satan is His creation. But the Rev passage distinguishes this binding over the rest of history.

    And I will ask you as well, where ins scripture does it say that if Satan were not bound, as is described in the rev passage we would not be able to preach the gospel freely?
     
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    I have never gotten satisfactory answers from Amillennialists on this...

    If Satan has already been bound, why haven't the believers who have been beheaded for the name of Christ been raised? (Revelation 20:4)

    No, Satan has not been bound to the pit, as he is before the thousand years begins. He is "roaming about," and is called our present, church age enemy multiple times, and is even now hindering the gospel...

    1Th 2:18 because we wanted to come to you--I, Paul, again and again--but Satan hindered us.

    Does not sound like someone who has been bound in chains, and cast in a pit...
     

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