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Is the GOSPEL a work of the Holy Spirit, or not?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Skandelon, Aug 11, 2011.

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  1. webdog

    webdog Active Member
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    I seem to get what James is saying...you are the one ripping it to pieces. Like I said, a child can understand the progression.
    I'm well aware of man's fallen condition. This is not the same thing as Augustinianism.
    Ditto
    It explains what a sinner is and the consequence. Only someone so entrenched in Augustinianism could miss it.
    It's your perogative if you want to embrace Roman Catholic hamartiology...I'll pass.
    What have I made up? I quoted Scripture word for word! If anything Augustine invented an extra-biblical doctrine you embrace.
     
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    WD,

    Did you read the sermon?
     
  3. Earth Wind and Fire

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    :laugh::laugh::laugh: I merely asked a question. Thanks, now I have to clean the coffee off the screen. ROFL!!!

    BTW, you never answered the question.
     
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    No, I'm lying...just pulling your leg for a laugh:laugh:

    Talk about pretzel logic (incredible):rolleyes:
     
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    No I didn't. Posting a sermon from a source that appears to agree with you does not prove nor disprove the passage in question and does nothing for a debate. We all can do that. Stick to the Scripture.

    Also, since you didn't address my question on what I "made up", I'll just chalk it up to another lame attempt of yours at a personal attack.
     
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    Adam and Jesus ONLY men who EVER had "real free will" to sin or not, as Adam was created with a sinless nature by God, and jesus was both God and Sinless man...

    Both Satan and Adam chose willfully to sin against God, in order to "play god"
    Chose to do such as "Free moral Agents"

    Both falls affected creation and man..

    NO LONGER capable of making free moral decisions, as now born as sinners, who prove that by willfully sinning against God!
     
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    when the Gospel "made sense to you" was when the Holy Spirit 'woke you up" in a spiritual sense to actually be able to hear and believe unto jesus and become saved...

    Due the fact that you heard and believed in Jesus confirmed and proved that you were indeed one of the Elect of God!
     
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    Nice...:thumbs: Thank you HS:smilewinkgrin:

    Of course you will be called delusional but if I were use, I'd go for the "Gnostic" title ..... thats pronounced wit a silent G.:laugh: Pretty Cool!
     
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    So you are claiming he passed from spiritual death to spiritual life at that moment, and before faith in Christ?
    ...or he is one of the "elect" (I believe this refers to jewish believers...not sure DHK is jewish) because he heard and believed.
     
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    This has to be one of the most blatantly false and misrepresentative posts I've read on the BB. Aaron, you really ought to be ashamed of yourself. I know you cannot be so daft as to actually believe that any of us have ever said that we can "save ourselves." Thus, I'm left with no other option but to believe that you purposefully and maliciously misrepresent us because you either cannot or will not debate our actual views. That reveals all I need to know about you. :tear:
     
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    I knew zip about theology save the little I had learned through the Catholic Church--RCC doctrine. I was like the "believers" (except I wasn't a believer) that Paul found in Acts 19--"we have not heard that there be such a thing as the Holy Spirit." I knew about and believed the trinity. But as far as the work and actual person of the Holy Spirit I was ignorant. Thus your statement above to me would be nonsense if you had asked that just after I got saved. If I was unaware of it then what I would be aware of it now in retrospect. I don't eisigete my salvation experience. I don't expect you to read anything into it either.
     
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