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is the king james the only right version?

Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by brobobby, Mar 29, 2004.

  1. robycop3

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    Permit me just one off-topic peroration here, but I think it's VITALLY important as it goes to the very HEART of Christianity!

    GB93433, I agree with you 110% on the racial thing! RACISM IS A GROSS SIN ! ! ! The SAME GOD created all men. He created diversities in races and cultures. Jesus Christ died for one race-THE HUMAN RACE! ! !

    I, too, would, without hesitation stomp loudly and vocally from any church whose leadership refused to admit a fellow human because of his/her skin color or any other aspect of physical appearance. To me, such a church leadership is terribly deficient in its knowledge of the Scriptures. PRAISE THE LORD for your friend who walked out!

    Does GOD hate racism? Absolutely! Read Numbers 12 and Acts 8.

    As for diversity other than racial-Yes, an all-American black or mostly black congregation often has a style of worship service that differs from that of an all-white or mostly-white flock. BUT IS IT INCORRECT? Not if it's BIBLE-BASED. Each culture has its own style of music, dress, hair styles, language dialect, body language, likes & dislikes in food, drink, etc. they're not wrong just because they're different from yours or mine. God perfectly understands every word & thought of every member of the human family. After all, it is by HIS will and power that all these diversities exist. There's NOT ONE that doesn't exist by His will!

    There! That's off my mind! Thank you, Lord, for those such as Granny Gumbo, GB93433, & Kiffin who aren't afraid, but PROUD to speak out against the sin of racism! Now, back to the topic.
     
  2. tinytim

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    Jim, when I posted, "God's preachers preach from the Bible, not a comic book"

    I was specifically about Chick's Comic books.

    How is that attacking the Bible unless you can find KJVOism in The Book of Chick, Chapter 1, verse 1.

    Jim &gt;&gt;&gt; "Still waiting also for the Scripture that supports having God's word in contradicting versions."

    Isaiah 61:1;Luke 4:18-19


    Granny, yeah i was raised up on the KJV, and I will never say it isn't the word of God. But nowhere in the KJV does it say that i must read ONLY the KJV. Verse please. Momma agrees BTW
     
  3. mioque

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    "There are both White and Blacks who are racists and there are no easy solutions to problems that go back to Southern Reconstruction."
    Trust me, those problems go back a little further...
     
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    You go back past Southern Reconstruction, do you?
     
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    Back to the subject of the thread...

    Yes,the KJB IS the only right Bible -for the English speaking world that is.

    But for the Spanish speaking world the 1585/1602 Valera Bible would be the right Bible..

    For the Italian speaking people the anti-Catholic Diodati 1607.

    The French,the Olivetan 1545 & 1551,and the list goes on....
    Not to mention about 60 foreign language Bibles that were traslated from the KJB...

    From a good tree comes good fruit!!!!
     
  6. robycop3

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    A_A:Back to the subject of the thread...

    Yes,the KJB IS the only right Bible -for the English speaking world that is.


    Proof, please???

    Did God retire in 1611, or does He still preserve/present/provide His word in the languages of today?
     
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    Why ask for proof? It is as apparent as your nose on your face that the KJVO has no proof. Only their own authority.
     
  8. Dr. Bob

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    To what exact "good tree" is this a reference?

    The AV translators used a variety of often-conflicting Greek texts. Which of THOSE is "the good tree"?
     
  9. mioque

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    Alcott
    "You go back past Southern Reconstruction, do you? "
    Never ask a lady her age....

    But strictly speaking as a historian, yes.

    Anti-Alexandrian
    To help complete that listing of yours.

    In Dutch it would be the Statenbijbel of 1631.
     
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    Any of the ones that are of the Byzantine family;the KJB is a distillation of those texts...Read Matt 7:20..
     
  11. robycop3

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    A_A:Back to the subject of the thread...

    Yes,the KJB IS the only right Bible -for the English speaking world that is.


    Proof, please?
     
  12. Johnv

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    Whether one translates a Bible, or any other written work, using a translation of an original as source texts will generally always produce bad fruit. It results in a literary version of the game "telephone".

    As for God inspiring writings, I can find no biblical support for the idea that God ever inspired texts. I can only find biblical support for God inspiring his Word (not words, not texts, not translations, not transcriptions).
     
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    Did anybody else not know we had to pope on here?
     
  14. Archangel7

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    What do you do when the English KJV and the 1585/1602 Reina-Valera Spanish Bible disagree?

    "As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee." (Mk. 1:2, KJV)

    "Como está escrito en Isaías el profeta: He aquí yo envío á mi mensajero delante de tu faz, Que apareje tu camino delante de ti." (Marcos 1:2, 1585/1602 Reina-Valera; see LINK)
     
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    Uh,sorry...My copy of the 1585/1602 Reina-Valera says NOTHING of the sort..In fact it reads:Como esta escrito en los profestas:He aqui,yo envio a mi mensagero delante de tu faz,que apareje tu camino delante de ti.


    Nice try though..
     
  16. Archangel7

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    Fascinating. There are two versions of the 1585/1602 Reina-Valera -- the one on the Bible Gateway website, and your copy.

    Would the real 1585/1602 Reina-Valera please stand up? [​IMG]
     
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    I will trust my copy over some internet copy!!!
     
  18. Archangel7

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    I guess we'll have to go back to "the originals" to determine which one is correct. [​IMG]

    BTW, how does your copy of the 1585/1602 Reina-Valera read at Rom. 1:16?

    "Porque no me avergüenzo del evangelio: porque es potencia de Dios para salud á todo aquel que cree; al Judío primeramente y también al Griego." (Rom. 1:16, 1585/1602 Reina-Valera; see LINK )

    "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek." (Rom 1:16, KJV)
     
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    Yep, if it came from over that wicked internet, its gotta be tainted. Kinda like them thar' Alexandrian manuscripts. [​IMG]
     
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    My copy of the 1585 Valera reads:Porque no me averguenzo del evangelio[The GOSPEL in English]de Christo;porque es poder de Dios para salvacion a todo aquel que cree:al Judio primeramente,y tambien al Greigo.
     
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