Which KJVO? </font>[/QUOTE] I gave examples on page 6 of this thread about the 5th or 6th post down... you know, the one right after yours. Also, the first post on page 7. But more well known figures would include Jack Hyles and Peter Ruckman. Both have committed adultery, have been exposed, and have failed to publicly repent. This is about as "lax" as a "Christian" can get... especially if they are all the while "hellfire and brimstone" against the sins of others. Their moral life changed to be weak. </font>[/QUOTE] You haven't shown a cause-effect relationship. You are sort of like liberals who blame GW Bush for the recession of the past 3 years... never mind that it originated on Clinton's watch and partly because of his economic policies... never mind that his 8 year weakening of our national security contributed to 9/11 that in turn prolonged the recession and put us back into deficit spending for the long term. Nope... it is a "Bush" recession because he happened to be President when the effects were seen. And so I reasoned in like manner that perhaps these Christians you refer to were weak not because they had begun using MV's but because they held to the KJVO... but didn't use it. I don't like the NIV and I do like the KJV. But the NIV that is a daily part of a Christians life is infinitely better than the KJV that is only opened during church or special occasions. No, that is not good enough to reason. Their carnal life increases; their spiritual life deceases. They no longer fear their God. </font>[/QUOTE] Maybe they never did. Maybe they feared other people or strong leaders. Many people under KJVO leadership are like this. Maybe their prior "spirituality" was nothing more than external pressure without any real involvement of the Holy Spirit. You cannot tell me this doesn't happen. I know from experience that it does. The watered down modern versions changed their life to be lax Christians. </font>[/QUOTE] You haven't proven this any more than you have proven any of your KJVO assumptions. My point stands unchallenged. If these people actually read, study, and meditate on God's Word in MV's then they will grow spiritually. If they have just started carrying a different version to church that isn't used otherwise then they will continue to get worse... but it will not be because of a Bible translation. It will be because they aren't using any Bible translation nor are they allowing the Holy Spirit to change their lives.