Featured Is there a Movement Afoot to become Charismatic

I wouldn't .....Westboro is an oddity & everyone knows it....in fact they are freakish & stuff happens in this world.

Rather than changing my name I would work to have people know that there are True Baptists that honor God & do good in the community & teach the gospel correctly. Changing your name expressly because a bunch of anti social morons use some iteration of it in their names is just silly (in my view)

 

What do you mean by "Contend for the Faith?"

 

OK what kinda Christian......RC, Mormon, Methodist, Episcopal, Lutheran.... Id ask for specifics if you approached me using that name. The Great Commission says:

Matthew 28:19-20

King James Version (KJV)

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

I often point to that when discussing my faith with someone..... notice the action word BAPTIZE!

 

No... he was talking about defending the faith.....but hou can you defend the faith when you havent even named it?

Baptism.....what is it & why are we so fearful of proclaiming it? Does it save, no it doesnt....but what does it entail & what are the steps leading to it? That has to be addressed to the person & indeed that is difficult to explain....so why explain it--at least up front? Why introduce complication to some ex-Roman Catholic who will get confused by the whole "Regeneration Thing"......therefore lets eliminate that as an obstacle to conversion. We will just slide this one in at another time.....LOL

 

I will give you an example Ann. A year ago or more I go visit church in a neighboring town because they said they were Baptist. I found (and this is only my perception) a very lax group of people & not very solid in theology. Salty, in his description of Charismatics in an earlier post described them to a tee. I walked outa there & my mind said, "Im not coming back here" cross this off the list.

Well 2 weeks ago, in one of the local papers, I see this add for a Bible Church & I thought, funny I know all the churches in my area, how did I miss this group.....so I go on line & the description really tries hard NOT to give up much information. What I walk away from is that they believe in God, Jesus is their savior & we meet on Sundays at 11 AM. Fine, so I get the hint....either I go there or I call the pastor. So I do the later.....come to find out that they were a Baptist Church (I believe affiliated with SBC) & they (actually the Pastor said he made the decision) to change the name to a generic "Bible Church" & move to a Charismatic format. His big selling device was his praise band, kickin & awesome....I heard a 15 minute sales pitch about that. I then recognized him from my past & politely terminated the conversation. He didnt make the sale....but had he disclosed this stuff upfront I would have made the decision meself (which is what he didnt want me to do). What he wanted was the opportunity for a sales pitch. Frankly he wasted my time & his.

 

Or if they even have one (statement) .....just we have a kickin praise band! LOL

Look I start off with Im a Christian which generally leads to the question, "What Kind" so I tell them Baptist.....which in NJ generally leads to the comment, "Ohhh, hmmmm Baptist.....wait, not one of kind you see in the south.....jeeze, their peculiar. LOL!

Then I generally respond with something like..... LAUGH...then, naaa Im not a nut....but you are aware that the State of RI was settled by "NORTHERN" Baptists from England....ya know, Roger Williams, right....& I (we)dont bite. That gets them ta laughing

Like anything else, ya gotta make friends first & break the ice.....now they can go home & tell the family they met a genuine "Baptist" & he aint southern & he aint a nut....actually quite friendly.

I mean, I dont know how you slip it in later but Id prefer to tell ya the price & then cost justify it (with value) than hide it till the end & risk po'ing the guy so he blows me off.....but thats your call. Mine is upfront.

 

Well.....Ive been in sales since I was 16 yrs old & I know that perception is important....so in Roman Catholic New Jersey, if you said Southern Baptist, youd be like a snow ball trying to survive in Miami. But it could work the other way......frankly I dont want to talk to a Pastor, Id rather find out information thru the Internet, through friends & MY connections. Kinda like going to look for a car.....yea I must speak to that pest of a salesguy hovering over me....but not till Ive got my ducks in a row.

If Im serious about my salvation, Ive already decerned that Baptists are not spawns of the devil....in fact the Bible only shows believers baptism to be the real deal. So now, guess what.....Im ripping through the Google search hunting out Baptist Churches (1st & foremost)..... not those kooky Presbyterians & forget those Episcopals fruits. LOL

Look I know your convinced but this is exactly what I did....I wasnt even considering anything else. Now If I was really interested, yea Id call....or if I was curious, then I might call......but if I went on line & typed in Baptist & got a clear statement of faith, a sampling of a sermon, some other directives that were open & forthcoming, then I would be much more inclined to proceed further.

Here is a hint though, in calendars, if you display them, have some activities other than church at 11AM & Bible Study on Wed @ 730 PM. Your broadcasting that you dont have much going on besides those two activities.....big turnoff!

 

Give this man the big pink polka dot stuffed elephant .....for he knocked down all 3 lead bottles with one shot.

The prize is yours!

 

Then study up....that is what Google is for:thumbs: