Is there ANY chance that Hillary could get the nomination?

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  1. targus

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    "Could Senator Clinton win the Democratic presidential nomination at the last minute by taking advantage of buyer's remorse among Democratic super-delegates who are dismayed by the performance of Senator Obama's campaign so far?"

    Here's the scenario: http://www.nysun.com/editorials/hillarys-surprise/83609/
     
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    Probably would be an ideal situation for the Republicans. But, I don't think it will happen.
     
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    Isn't going to happen. Even if the Super Delegates believe the Obama campaign is a disaster in progress they know they cannot change their minds. Doing so could well bring about rioting in some parts of our nation. It would split the party in half without question. Love him or hate him, the left is going to have to ride Obama to November.
     
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    There is a small chance. Fellow thinks he has evidence that "Bama was born in Indonesia. If he can get a restraining order . . . .
     
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    Absolutely no chance. In all honesty, the riots of the early '90's due to the whole Rodney King fiasco will see to it this doesn't happen. I can only imagine the backlash if a black candidate who holds the popular and delegate vote didn't get the opportunity to run for POTUS. It would be a race relations nightmare for everyone.
     
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    The power of race preference has risen to be supreme hasn't it?
     
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    How did this get on to race?

    There is no way he deserves to not get the nomination. It would be robbery to not give it to him.
     
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    I think Hillary won the popular vote, but not the delegates.
     
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    I just saw on the local news that the delegates that were for Hillary were saying they were going to switch. And they would be united by the end of the week.
     
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    Agreed. And race is the issue whether or not anyone wants to admit it. It is the underpinning for everything else the Democratic ticket end up to be.
     
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    Because the winner is getting the nomination?!?!?!?!
     
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    No, because if the scenario in the OP would come to fruition, it would be looked at as a race issue, and this country would be in a bad situation. There would be riots like you wouldn't believe. There would be no other explanation for the one who holds the delegates to not be the nominee.
     
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    Well, if the guy who wins the nomination is not given it then perhaps there is just cause for rioting.
     
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    I don't think you win the nomination until the convention. So no one has won it yet. I think it is similar to the electoral college idea. Furthermore, HRC won the popular vote, so would it be just to riot since the one who won the most votes didn't get the nomination? I doubt it.

    So I don't think there is any just reason for rioting. We live in a nation of laws and peace.
     
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    Well, my comments were made BEFORE the Michelle speech was delivered last night and her speech had the racial issue in it when she mentioned MLK. Juan Williams (liberal commentator on FNC) was reduced to tears over her speech and came right out and stated it was a wonderful day for African-Americans. I noticed the panned audience shots and the blacks were crying and cheering during MO's speech. Quite a few whites were sitting in defensive postures (arms folded across chest/body language) and several whites had expressions that looked like deer caught in headlights.

    Believe race is not an issue any longer if you want to, but it is a BIG factor - reversed, and I believe the dreams alluded to by the Black Panthers are alive and well (remember "Power to the People") and the New Black Panther's plug on the Obama website had the plug pulled according to Internet sources. Please remember that most blacks voted for Obama in the Primary based on color only according to well-documented statistics. So race is definitely an issue even though many whites don't want to see it that way. But the DNC knows Watts would pale if Hillary got the nomination. That's why they have feverishly been working behind the scenes for Bill and Hill to bring unity to the party.
     
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    I think this is a HUGE positive step for my country. Forty years ago blacks at the convention were rare - today a black man is a candidate for a major party and very well might be the next president.

    I despise his politics, but I admire this amazingly positive step forward for the United States of America. Is it really so hard to believe that a black man could honestly be nominated?

    Do you really not think that vast numbers of Democrats voted for Clinton because she was white?

    If the DNC did not give the nomination to Senator Obama there would be only one reason - race - and that would be WRONG!
     
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    It could equally said that if the DNC did not give the nomination to Hillary, (a woman) - THAT would be wrong.

    I truly hope Democrats who are against this Empty Suit of no Substance and no Experience who was absent for most Senate votes, will defect and vote for John McCain. I look for Hillary to run in 2012. Perhaps the man of no substance and empty promises will just fade away and be another has been in his 1.65 million dollar home while his poor grandma continues to sit with no running water in Kenya.
     
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    If she won the delegates I would agree, but Obama won the delegates. Why is there even an issue???


    Because of that we have two dangerous candidates. I still don't know what to do, but I know I can't vote for Obama and don't think I can vote for McCain :(
     
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    Gotta link?
     
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    1. Mentioning one of the greatest Americans in our history - Martin Luther King, Jr. - is a racial issue???? That's a ridiculous statement for a non-racist to make.

    2. You don't think it was a wonderful day for African-Americans last night? I do.

    3. Tears? Well, if my wife had not been sitting with I would have been crying myself(I had to work at it not to cry). When I was a child in the 1960s the idea of a black woman addressing a major party convention as the potential First Lady would have not even been thought of as being plausible. This Thursday night will probably be the greatest political event in this country so far in my lifetime, maybe even since the constitution was adopted. I have never been any prouder of my country than I will be when Senator Obama accepts the Democratic Party presidential nomination on Thursday night.

    Racists and other ne'er-do-wells in this country can go jump in the lake as far as I am concerned.
     

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