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  1. Rippon

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    possibly fill the shoes of Charles Spurgeon in the way this Op suggests?

    Charles H.Spurgeon is adored by many outside the ranks of Calvinism.Those same folks do not have even a smattering of that kind of respect for John Calvin,John Owen,B.B.Warfield and many other prominent Calvinists down through the ages.

    Of course many Baptists would naturally incline themselves to a fellow Baptist.However,the sainted John Bunyan doesn't come close.

    A.W. Pink is seen as too austere though he was baptistic.

    Other Baptists are not even on the radar screen.Men like B.H.Carroll and John Broadus are non-starters.

    I guess my question to the non-Cals out there in BB-Land is who would place second in your favor after C.H.S? What Calvinist would be likekable enough to be embraced by non-Cals as a runner-up to the Prince of Preachers in this respect?
     
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    Spurgeon was such a prolific writer that I doubt he will ever be replaced in Christian circles.

    On other men, I think each time period produced its "favourite" writers and preachers. In my time, famous missionaries played a favourite role as did such wrters as J. Oswald Saunders, D. Martyn Lloyd-Jones, J. Sidlow Baxter, G. Campbell Morgan and not to forget F.F. Bruce and J. Vernon McGee.

    As a point of interest, Mr. Spurgeon was quoted in my very secular magazine, Cockney Ancestor...a history of East London.

    Spurgen quote: "A good character is the best tombstone. Those who loved you and were helped by you will remember you when forget-me-nots have withered. Carve your name in hearts, not on marble."

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Albert Mohler..........
     
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    Hi Jim.Nice to seeyou back in these parts.Could you tell me more about J.Sidlow Baxter?

    Aside from the possible exception of Baxter, Dr.Bruce (quasi-Calvinist I suppose)and M-L-J -- the rest were very Arminian in their theology.I wanted some names of Calvinists who are respected by non-Cals.
     
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    I was wondering the same thing.Do others here agree that Dr.Mohler would be a good example of a strong Calvinist who is nevertheless respected by non-Cals?
     
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    At the turn of the century, most baptists would be sub-lapsarian, but considered Calvinists. All the men I mentioned would be in that category and most of them were also dispensationalists.

    J. Sidlow Baxter was schooled at Spurgeon's Pastor's College on London and pastored churches in both England and Scotland. He was in great demand globally as a conference speaker. He was a very able preacher, teacher and I think he authored some 30 books.

    Baptists have closed their ranks more in this century than they did even in Spurgeon's day. Back then, we were more open to believers of all walks. Take one of Spurgeon's famous quotes..."Lord, save the elect and elect some more...." Calvinist? He surely was. Open to all those in need of Christ; no doubt!

    We have much to learn from men of old.

    As men attended the famous Reformed and Presbyterian seminaries, before modernism took over, they became tighter Calvinists and then occupied chairs in theology at Baptist schools.

    Lloyd-Jones was a very strong calvinist as was F.F. Bruce, but of the English school, and therefore, more open to appreciating people in other evangelical denominations.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    I keep thinking of C.S. Lewis. He wasn't Baptist he was Church of England, and I know nothing of his Theology, as you know he was more of an Apologist. But I think he is one of the few people almost all of Christendom admires.

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    I think C.S.Lewis is quoted more than most,but not necessarily beloved by most.Spurgeon was more biblically orthodox.I think that quality is required.Besides,Lewis was far from Reformed.There are Church of England men today who are Calvinists;but Lewis was not of that camp.
     
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    C.S. Lewis was a professor of English literature at Oxford and met with two other men on a weekly basis to discuss the Christian religion. The one name I can't spell and the 3rd man I forget. Lewis did admit to a conversion experience, but also adhered to some very unorthodox theological viewpoints. He remained true to the CofE to his dying day. The one other fellow, also a popular writer, remained true to his Roman Catholic religion...I am sure someone will come up with his name....

    Lewis wrote a very good book defending the Christian religion and many would accept his book as gospel in presenting these truths..Mere Christianity and Screwtape Letters....J.R.R. Tolkien was the other bloke....

    I trust this little bit helps a little.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     

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