is this a silly question?

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  1. UnchartedSpirit

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    Why didn't God give Eve woman's intuition? Couldn't she have avioded eating that fruit with it?

    Apoligies because I'm a young male
     
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    Has nothing to do with 'a woman's intuition'. As a matter of fact, in fact, the 'woman's intuition' did not come until after they both had eaten of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
     
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    Yes...it is a silly question. :D

    Joseph Botwinick
     
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    ahhh, and so I am enlightened...how does that work (the fruit bearing inturition that is?)?
     
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    Intuition simply refers to thinking of something without a logical basis. For example, a woman might "sense" that something is wrong with her baby, based on nothing more than a feeling. It's kind of mixed up with instinct...the thing we have that tells us something isn't quite right, even if we're not sure what it is.

    That really doesn't have anything to do with sin or desire or being deceivable. In fact, a woman's tendency to be more emotional than a man might have made her an easier target than Adam would have been, in my opinion, because we are more inclined to let our emotions take over. She was looking at something beautiful, and it was visually appealing, and its words took her doubts and turned them into wonderful ideas and romantic thoughts of wisdom and glory.
    I believe his approach to Adam would have been very different.
     
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    I would also like to know some FACTS about the connection between the fruit and intuition.

    But, Uncharted Spirit, I agree with Joseph Botwinick that your question is silly. It is silly because it seems to imply that, if God had done things "better", sin's curse could have been avoided. It is never our place to second-guess God.
     
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    I disagree in thinking the question is silly. Uncharted Spirit is at exactly the right age to be asking these kind of questions as he gets matters straightened out in his head!

    Uncharted Spirit, if you get your Bible and read Ezekiel 28, starting at verse 12, you will see the Lord speaking through Ezekiel to someone. The someone is named as the King of Tyre, but if you read what follows, you will read that the King of Tyre is only a vehicle for the transmission of a message the same way Ezekiel is. God is talking to Satan.

    You were the model of perfection,
    full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
    You were in Eden, the garden of God;
    every precious stone adorned you:
    ...Your settings and mountings were made of gold;
    on the day you were created they were prepared.
    You were anointed as guardian cherub,
    for so I ordained you.

    You were on the holy mount of God;
    you walked among the fiery stones.
    You were blameless in your ways
    from the day you were created
    till wickedness was found in you.


    If he was the guardian cherub of Eden, then Eve already knew him....and trusted him. Eve was deceived, Paul tells us. The person she was supposed to trust lied to her. That was not a matter of intuition, that was a matter of simple deception.

    The question I have always had is why on earth did ADAM eat the fruit? He was not deceived.

    Sin, we are told, did not enter the world because of Eve, who ate first, but because of Adam, who knew better! We can read Eve's earlier exchange with the serpent and say, "Well, she knew better." She was repeating what she had been told. When he told her differently, she evidently figured she must have been mistaken, and then trusted her own ideas instead.

    Satan has never had to use more than that one temptation with any of us. It comes in two parts:

    Did God REALLY say.....???

    Think for yourself!....

    Thinking for yourself is fine until and unless you find that you are in opposition to what God has clearly said in His Word.

    Then guess who is wrong?
     
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    These are the facts I'm never getting except from here,I stopped reading Ezekiel once people brought up all those UFO conspiracies...
    Would that mean the cherub resembled a 'serpent', at that time? And that God placed him subject to man when he was banished from heaven? Um, now this one is silly. If satan was also one of the cherubs guarding the garden after the fall, could that still be 'the place' out of all others that he wanders to? I'm connecting this to Irans current hostilities...
     
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    Don't stop reading the Bible, UnchartedSpirit, no matter what! It doesn't matter what people say, it is God's Word. We don't understand every part of it, but that is not the point, is it?

    The word translated into 'serpent' in Hebrew has a much wider meaning than what we normally think of as a 'snake.' The word is 'nahas', and is from a root meaning to whisper or hiss, to make a magic spell, to prognosticate, to enchant, etc. The 'snake' meaning comes from the idea of 'hissing' in the derivative word. The difference between the two words in the Hebrew is the tiniest of marks under the middle letter. In other words, the basic meaning of Genesis means more than 'snake' although that is included -- Eve was 'enchanted' which Paul confirms by saying she was deceived. The full meaning and implication of the Hebrew is far more than some pretty snake talking to Eve!

    Satan, however, has not yet been banished from being present at God's Throne (heaven). You will find in Job that he is coming to give account at the throne and, again, in Revelation 12:10 we find him being accused of being the accuser of the brethren day and night. He is cast out of heaven during the Tribulation, as we see in Revelation 8:10, which is further explained in chapter 9 of Revelation.

    And no, Satan was guarding nothing after the Fall. Instead, Peter tells us he roams around like a lion, looking for someone to devour (1 Peter 5:8). Eden, in the meantime, is buried under miles of sediments. The earth today is not what it was before the Flood.

    The current hostilities in the Middle East can be traced back, basically, to the hostilities between Abraham's two oldest sons, Ishmael and Isaac. Islam was founded by a descendant of Ishmael and Judaism through a descendant of Isaac. It is the basic and primal hostility which exists between the lie and the truth, between man relying on man and man relying on God.
     
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    Helen is absolutely correct, Uncharted.
    Don't stop reading the Bible just because someone else doesn't understand it.
    You will be just as bad off as they are.
    And don't let condescending people here put you off the way people at your church have put you off.
    Ask any question you want.
    You will soon see who can teach and who should be ignored.

    MR
     
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    [​IMG] Agree.
     

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