Is This Legitimate?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by sag38, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. sag38

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    I received this in a forward email from a church member wanting to know if there is any truth to this? While it sounds good I don't have any way of verifying this. Have any of you heard of this? Personally, I thought they cleaned their mouth with bread rather than a napkin.

    Why did Jesus fold the napkin?

    I love this, and had never seen it before. Hope you get as much from it as I did~

    Why did Jesus fold the linen burial cloth after His resurrection?

    The Gospel of John (20:7) tells us that
    the napkin, which was placed over the face of Jesus, was not
    just thrown aside like the grave clothes. The Bible takes an
    entire verse to tell us that the napkin was neatly folded, and
    was placed at the head of that stony coffin.

    1. Early Sunday morning, while it was
    still dark, Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and found
    that the stone had been rolled away from the entrance.



    2. She ran and found Simon Peter and the other disciple,

    the one whom Jesus loved. She said, 'They have
    they have put him!'



    3. Peter and the other disciple ran to the
    tomb to see.



    4. The other disciple outran Peter and got there
    first.



    5. He stooped and looked in and saw the linen cloth lying
    there, but he didn't go in.



    6. Then Simon Peter arrived and went inside. He also noticed

    the linen wrappings lying there,



    7. while the cloth that had covered Jesus' head was folded up

    and lying to the side.

    Is that important? Absolutely! Is it really significant? Yes!

    In order to understand the significance of the folded napkin,
    you have to understand a little bit about Hebrew tradition of
    that day. The folded napkin had to do with the Master and
    Servant, and every Jewish boy knew this tradition.



    When the servant set the dinner table for the master,

    he made sure that it was exactly the way the master wanted
    it. The table was furnished perfectly, and then the
    servant would wait, just out of sight, until the master had

    finished eating, and the servant would not dare touch that table,

    until the master was finished.


    Now if the master was done eating, he would rise from the table,
    wipe his fingers, his mouth, and clean his beard, and would
    wad up that napkin and toss it onto the table. The servant would
    then know to clear the table. For in those days, the wadded
    napkin meant, 'I'm done'.



    But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin,

    and laid it beside his plate, the servant would not dare touch the table,
    because.......... The folded napkin meant, 'I'm coming back!'

    He Is Coming Back!!!!
     
  2. exscentric

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    Just as legit as saying it was folded because he was a carpenter and carpenters folded their work cloth when finished with their piece of work, OR that he was a carpeneter and they folded their work cloth and put it on their piece because their work was not finished all of which I've heard of recent.

    If you get it in email, be sure to hit the suspect button :thumbs:
     
  3. sag38

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    Personally I don't think it legit. Just wondering if anyone has heard this before, or where it may have orginally come from.
     
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    Although, I must say...After being dead, if I get up and fold my own graveclothes, it could be surmised that I don't need them.

    :D
     
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    I heard it in a sermon about 25 yrs ago. I was suspicious even then.. that is why I remembered it.
     
  6. Magnetic Poles

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    Sounds bogus to me.
     
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    Sag38:
    But if the master got up from the table, and folded his napkin,

    and laid it beside his plate, the servant would not dare touch the table,
    because.......... The folded napkin meant, 'I'm coming back!'

    He Is Coming Back!!!!



    Well it really doesn`t matter if it is true or not.

    1) Jesus was not getting up from a table he was rising grom the dead.
    2) We already know he is coming back. We donĀ“t need some sort of "sign" to tell us that. We have the word of God to tell us.
     
  8. Rex77

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    At least the napkin proves the shroud of Turin is a fake.
     
  9. pinoybaptist

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    whoooeeee !!!!:thumbs: :thumbs:

    Like this one best.

    way to go, mate ! way to go !
     
  10. David Lamb

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    Sorry, I just cannot find any reference in the bible to suggest that the other grave clothes were just "thrown aside". John 27.6 says:
    Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; and he saw the linen cloths lying there.

    To say that the word translated "lying" means "thrown aside", we would also have to sat that the baby Jesus was "thrown aside" into the manger, that Jesus' dead body was "thrown aside" into the tomb, that the foundation of our faith mentioned in 1 Corinthians 3.11 was "thrown aside", and that God's throne in heaven was "thrown aside" (Revelation 4.2). The Greek word used for all those things is the same as the one translated "lying" in John 27.6.

    Also, the word translated "napkin" in the AV/KJV does not mean what we mean by it, a square piece of cloth or tissue paper used at mealtimes to protect clothes and wipe the mouth. It can mean either a handkerchief (cloth for cleaning the nose, or wiping away sweat) or a cloth for binding the head of a corpse. So the reference to servants, masters and mealtimes makes the whole thing seem even more spurious.

     

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