Is Trump trying to sabotage his own campaign

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    Trump keep reversing himself. Now he says abortions laws are set and should be left alone. Is it that Trump realizes that he is in over his head and is trying to find a way out? Is it this was a reality show that got away from him and he is trying to find a way to "You're fired" himself?

    Trump: Abortion laws 'are set and I think we have to leave it that way'

    http://www.ajc.com/news/news/nation...on-laws-are-set-and-i-think-we-have-le/nqxq2/
     
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    It's called being a politician.

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    Here is more on Trumps opinion of abortion

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/trump-now-abortion-laws-left-38097115
     
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    It is called not having any moral grounding but only living by opportunities. He goes with whoever can give him the most.
     
  5. Crabtownboy

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    Is that a moral path for Trump or anyone to follow?
     
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    Is accusing a man that one does not know of “not having any moral grounding but only living by opportunities” anything but evidence that it is the accuser who has no moral grounding and is himself “only living by opportunities”? Such sinful, judgmental behavior does not belong on a Christian message board—or anywhere else!

    I am not a supporter of Donald Trump because he does not appear to me to have some of the qualities that I believe a future President of the United States should have, but when I read trash about him, it turns my stomach because he is a human being and therefore deserves better.
     
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    We all are known by our fruits.
     
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    No.

     
  9. Benjamin

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    We have Christian heads being chopped off by ISIS and people (the PC) want to worry about Donald Trump's tone - which BTW he is out in open with while the others MERELY do it behind closed doors.
     
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    Yes, and they are drowning people in steel cages. We know. We know.

    So what is Donald going to do about it? Talk about it some more? Give concrete examples of what he would do.

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    Yeah, Yeah, and I know all about the DC - PC views about how to deal with ISIS. – problem begins with immigration policies they are making which are making us “losers” in many areas. Here is the important difference which begins with Trump pointing toward common sense about who we are letting into this country and what it is based on, not being PC but…specifically addresses the problems which are taking us down. What does he plan to do about it? Not let them in. Need I go into WHO has plans and has been speaking up to change the norm on this issue by building a wall and stopping infiltration through immigrant policies before we get what Europe is getting?


    Trump addresses Bernie blaming the Paris crisis on global warming, …specifically calling out and addressing that kind of foolishness could probably be considered laying some ground work for new directions. What does he plan to do about it? Call a duck a duck and de-feather it for a start.


    How about the nominal idea of taking the oil rather than saying that isn’t PC and letting Iran and ISIS use it instead??? Pretty specific policy change or not? Oh, my we wouldn’t want to ruffle PC feathers by taking the oil supplies of those who are at war with us!! Rolleyes Trump is bringing attention to ISIS primary sources of wealth and making commitments that aren’t exactly rocket science to STOPPING IT! – is yuuuge! ;) What does he plan to do about it? Simply take away the sources of their wealth! Specifically?? - Oil wells are not too hard to find and bomb the S&*! out of…concrete enough?


    How about Trump’s plan of changing the banking system which finances ISIS? Nah, Trump doesn’t know anything about that sort of thing! ;)


    Trump draws attention to the need to address that we suddenly start attacking ISIS training sites after the Paris attacks – and SPECIFICALLY ask why didn’t we start doing this a year ago? You might ask what concrete plan that he has to do about that? Hmm, what about as soon as we know of them taking them out…not rocket science here either, just do it! – for a concrete change.


    Concrete examples? How about speaking the plan and simple truth about what needs to be done in general and committing to actually getting it done!? – regardless of the PC police objections.? Sounds like a concrete plan to me.
     
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    I was not aware that they are chopping Christians heads off and drowning them in steel cages in Europe. Got a link?

    So, once we've bombed the oil wells...tell me again how we take the oil from them? Or do we bomb ISIS into the next century then set up an occupying force to run the oil wells, transport tanker trucks, etc.? Because when you say "take their oil" it means putting American soldiers and corporate interests on the ground in Syria and Iraq..


    Well, sure. All Trump has to do is snap his fingers and international bankers will feel guilty about laundering the terrorist's oil money, genuflect, and kiss his ring. NOT!

    Even Hillary Clinton is wondering why we weren't bombing ISIS more heavily for longer. The idea is not a revelation. You might recall Cruz saying we should carpet bomb them until the desert glows. So, it's not a novel idea.

    And all these things will stop terrorists from chopping the heads off Christians and drowning people in steel cages?
     
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    Probably not the best subject to be so glib about.
     
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    Come on! Nowhere did I say they were cutting off heads in Europe and you know better that that was not the issue and your answer did not address my conclusion. Pretty weak argument there considering my issue was about immigration, of which the problems arising in Europe are undeniable, and my conclusion was that Trump is seriously addressing that issue.

    We take the oil where it is practical otherwise we STOP any production that finances ISIS. Here is the ISSUE: These oil wells are financing ISIS and if we can’t stop that and cut off these roots with our military we have serious problems. I don’t want to hear excuses I want action! Where it is practical to take the oil and fund some of these actions we do so! If we can’t protect the land where some oils wells set and the transport routes out of there AGAIN we have serious problems! We can do it – and we should, period. Enough of the excuses…


    The international bankers need merely fear the consequences from a country that is commanding respect for a change.

    Hilary! Are you serious? She is just like her husband who repeatedly rode the coattails of Ross Perot’s ideas that were getting positive attention during his election. Like a parrot. She has proved how worthless she is when it comes to action, think Benghazi and please don’t pretend that woman has what it takes to win a fight or is even in Trump's league when it comes to stepping into that ring. Her and Cruz wouldn’t even be highlighting the issue if Trump hadn’t brought the focus on it.



    Are you suggesting this “all or nothing” proposal of yours is a legitimate argument to give reason not to actually do the things necessary which will change the tide in this war that Trump is proposing?
     
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    You brought up the fact that Christian's heads were being cut off and I asked you what Trump would do about it. You've given a couple of very lengthy answers and when I ask you "Will that stop Christians heads from being cut off", you respond as if that question was a new thing to the discussion.

    Not only have you drunk Trump's Kool-Aid, you have your own stand set up for selling it.
     
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    I presume that it is because Ben Carson endorsed him.
     
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    You asked me what concrete things Trump had to deal with ISIS in response to the terrorism they are spreading around the world (where I noted only one of the terrible lengths ISIS were going to and to which oppositions desire is to focus on Trump’s tone, IOW's, rather than focus on the real issues), to which I gave a lengthy reply concerning the actions regarding immigration etc., and then you act as if the issue is that I suggested they were cutting off heads in Europe. o_O


    Starting to sound like an advocate to the Democrat’s type of arguments there with such spin to lead away from the more important issues. ;) - So Donald's tone is more important than his planned actions against ISIS, my argument can to be twisted to suggest I said they were cutting off heads in Europe - well I guess that settles it! ... Rolleyes
     
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  19. InTheLight

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    No, I asked you what Trump was going to do about Christian's getting their heads chopped off.


    http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/is-trump-trying-to-sabotage-his-own-campaign.99155/#post-2219937

    Really, it's just a few posts upstream. Anyone can see it.
     
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    Is Trump "trying"? No. He seems to have problems with expecting policy-type questions; he fumbles with an answer; gets briefed by his team on how he should have answered; and the follow-on interviews reflect that he's gone back and done his homework ... albeit, after-the-fact.

    It would be interesting to pull together his policy statements where he did his homework BEFORE he got asked the question(s).
     

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