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Israel disengagement - A democracy killing itself

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Enoch, Aug 15, 2005.

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  1. Enoch

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    How did you come to this conclusion?
     
    #21 Enoch, Aug 17, 2005
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    Was wondering the same thing!! :confused: :confused:
     
    #22 just-want-peace, Aug 17, 2005
  3. KenH

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    #23 KenH, Aug 17, 2005
  4. Enoch

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    Ken you are not answering the question. Why do you think it belongs to the Palestinians?

    Do you know the history of the land?


     
    #24 Enoch, Aug 17, 2005
  5. KenH

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    Yep. Did you read the article I linked?

    I have answered your question. If you don't like the answer, then that's just tough. That's your problem, not mine. [​IMG]
     
    #25 KenH, Aug 17, 2005
  6. Enoch

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    Ken please show me where you answered the question of why it belongs to the Palestinians? :confused:
     
    #26 Enoch, Aug 17, 2005
  7. Enoch

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    To make it easier for you without typing out your conclusion, maybe you could cut and paste from your link where it says the land belongs to the Palestinians. Since that is where you got your facts.

    I truly am tyring to understand where you are coming from. :confused:
     
    #27 Enoch, Aug 17, 2005
  8. KenH

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    "In 1949, the war between Israel and the Arab states ended with the signing of armistice agreements. The country once known as Palestine was now divided into three parts, each under separate political control. The State of Israel encompassed over 77 percent of the territory. Jordan occupied East Jerusalem and the hill country of central Palestine (the West Bank). Egypt took control of the coastal plain around the city of Gaza (the Gaza Strip)."

    As I said, I have not heard that Egypt wants it back.
     
    #28 KenH, Aug 17, 2005
  9. Enoch

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    But Ken we are talking about the Palestinians who you claim the land belongs to. We are not discussing the Egyptians.
     
    #29 Enoch, Aug 17, 2005
  10. Enoch

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    Ken can you explain your answer?

    Israeli Troops Pull Resisters Out of Synagogue

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    August 18: Israeli troops and police outside the Kfar Darom synagogue.

    Fox News
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    #30 Enoch, Aug 18, 2005
  11. Enoch

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    But Ken we are talking about the Palestinians who you claim the land belongs to. We are not discussing the Egyptians. How does your answer make that the Palestinians?
     
    #31 Enoch, Aug 19, 2005
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    Egypt controlled Gaza.

    When attacked, Israel took Gaza from Egypt.

    Israel is pulling out of Gaza and no longer wants to control it.

    The Palestinians are left in Gaza.

    Egypt has not indicated that it wants Gaza back.

    The Palestinians will now control Gaza after all of the Israelis are gone.

    The land belongs to whomever controls it.
     
    #32 KenH, Aug 19, 2005
  13. Enoch

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    Thank you Ken!

    Ken are you saying that the Gaza only belongs to the Palestinians because Israel is giving it to them currently?

    Or

    Are you saying it belonged to them previously and it’s their land?

    I hope I’m clear?
     
    #33 Enoch, Aug 19, 2005
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    It is theirs because Israel is leaving it to them currently.

    Have a nice evening. [​IMG]
     
    #34 KenH, Aug 19, 2005
  15. Enoch

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    Praise the Lord Ken! I am delighted in my spirit by your answer. I thought you meant something entirely different. Although we disagree on the Gaza pullout I'm glad there isn't more. Thank you for taking the time to make it clearer. Goodnight!
     
    #35 Enoch, Aug 19, 2005
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    17 Gaza Settlements Evacuated 4 left

    Who would have thought such a day would come when we would see Jewish soldiers storming a Synagogue dragging out Jews. Jews against Jews. [​IMG]


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    An Ultra-Orthodox Jewish settler weeps as he is escorted out of the synagogue of the Jewish settlement of Neve Dekalim Thursday Aug. 18, 2005.


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    Jewish settlers pray for the last time in their synagogue before Israeli policemen and soliders storm the Neve Dekalim settlement in the Gush Katif, August 18, 2005.

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    Israeli troops remove Jewish opponents of the Gaza's pullout by force from a synagogue at the settlement of Neve Dekalim, Gaza Strip, August 18, 2005.

     
    #36 Enoch, Aug 19, 2005
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