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Israeli attack on U.S.S. Liberty

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by Aaron, Oct 4, 2007.

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  1. KenH

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    Not all Christians agree with what you classify as false doctrine.


    Romans 2:28 A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God.

    Galatians 3:7 Understand, then, that those who believe are children of Abraham.
     
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    Romans 2:28-29
    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Revelation 2:9
    I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    Revelation 3:9
    Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    Galatians 3:7
    Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

    Romans 4:16
    Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

    Galatians 3:29
    And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

    Some argue that these verses support two things:

    1) Non-believing Jews are not real Jews (and thus don't have the promises of God).
    2) Those that accept Christ (Jew or Gentile) are the new heirs, the new Abraham's seed, and that the promises are no longer that of the Jews (see #1).

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    Thank you, Ken & Kubel. I will print these out and study on my flight.
     
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    Hooboy...that's really close to saying (or IS saying):
    • WW2 was simply God's punishing Israel.
    • The Holocaust was the Jews' fault.
    Hope we haven't gone THAT far outside the bounds of sanity...If so, then you need some help.
     
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    If people didn't bring up certain subjects over and over, then nobody would respond ;)
     
  6. Aaron

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    Back to the original intent of this thread. . .the Israeli attack on the Liberty.

    Why wasn't this considered an act of war? Surely no one believes the sons of Abraham have Divine sanction to commit atrocities, let's keep the religion out of this one.
     
  7. kubel

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    It wasn't considered an act of war because:

    1) They were allies.
    2) It was concluded (by who, I'm not sure, no investigations were made) that it was a case of mistaken identity.
    3) The US got paid to cover damage to the ship, and the victims received an additional settlement.


    I am on the side of our sailors on this one. I believe the attack was deliberate. And I disagree with those that feel Genesis 12:3 immunizes Israel from all crimes, or somehow automatically makes everything they do right.
     
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