It is as it was....or was it?

Vaspers my island brother. Not being sacrcastic, snide, and I am not even angry. I am just being truthful. Phillip has had every opportunity to come here with substantiated facts and present them. He has none, so he just wants to come here and try to ruin the tranquility of our beautiful island pasadise. Sip all the coffee you want, and you can even pour a cup for Phillip. Maybe when he gets some facts to support his assertions he will be back.

Can't ya just feel the love?

 

God tells us that He is True, and every man a liar, so if there is error in this movie, we all know where the blame should be put. I sat through this movie not once, not twice, but four times. Why would I put myself through the darkness of this "greatest deception ever $old" you may ask? It was so that I could speak knowledgably on the subject, and also because it took me four viewings to document all of Biblical, historical, and linguistic errors in the movie. I did this so that others would not have to. I have dealt with the occult for many years, so this was nothing new or shocking to me. I wonder how many satanists have gone to view the graphically enhanced fantasy pummeling of our Lord with great glee?


In the movie, Mel mixed the words of men, with the Words of God, and then used them out of context. He had "Jesus" say to Mary "Behold *mother* [words of men] I make all things new."

Part of the quote is from Revelation 21:

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, *Behold, I make all things new.* And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

The problem being that these Words were revealed to John, not Mary, so Mr Gibson added the word "mother" to the Word of God, and then took it out of context, and used it to address Mary. What does God's Word say about this:

Proverbs 30
5 Every word of God [is] pure: he [is] a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

So, if someone came to you , and said that they had a good source of spiritual information for you, but God said that the source has been found to be a liar, should we flock to it?

Joshua had spiritual discernment:

Joshua 6
18 And ye, in any wise keep [yourselves] from the accursed thing, lest ye make [yourselves] accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.

And Paul, had incredible spiritual discernment:

Galatians 1
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

If someone changes the Word of God, they are in effect, preaching another Gospel, are they not? This movie is nothing but a Marian "shrine", which according to the Commandments, is forbidden worship, therefore an abomination to God. Mr Gibson said at one point that the Holy Spirit was directing this film. Can anyone here envision a Righteous, Holy God sitiing there counting the days anxiously until this film, which was based on mystical writings that were received by divination which He also says He hates, was completed so that He could use it as a witnessing tool as many have claimed? God is bound by His Word, therefore He can not say that He hates something, and then turn around and endorse it.

People need to get rid of their "Good News", and their "Message" bibles, and check out what the real Word of God has to say, and then maybe they, and the supposed "leadership" will stop leading people down the jungle path for some cookies and special "kool aid". The enemy has built the so called "ecumenical" movement. This movement is like a race car with no brakes, and it is designed to operate on the "wide" super highway, on which there is no breakdown lane so you can reduce your speed once you realize the error. There is only a brick wall at the end, or you can go over the cliff down into the "pit". I would suggest taking a different route. It is known as the narrow path.

 

From the KJV Bible:

Revelation 22

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.


From a literal translation of the received Greek text:


Revelation 22

18 I testify together for everyone hearing the Words of the prophecy of Scroll this, if anyone add to these things, will add God upon him the plagues having been written in Scroll this;
19 And if anyone take away from the Words of [the] Scroll of prophecy this, will take away God the part of him from [the] Scroll of Life, and out of the city Holy, and of the things having been written in Scroll this.

S&T:

The embellished phrase "behold *mother*", would constitute adding to the Word, would it not? And how would one define taking part of the passage that was spoken to John in Revelation out of context, and then making it appear that it was spoken by Jesus to Mary in a film that was touted as being scripturally accurate and true to the Gospels? Would this be subtracting? The next question would be, now that someone has been informed of this, what is their part in this if they recommend the movie to others?

 

I have some Jewish history questions about the events portrayed in the movie:

Would a Jewish woman in first century Palestine uncover her head in public [Veronica] wipe the bloody face of someone, and then hold that bloody cloth to her lips and kiss it.

Would a Jewish mother kiss the bloody feet of her son and then stand in public with blood all over her face and lips?

Were men and women allowed to be in the temple together, or was there a partition between them?

Would a Jewish high priest spit on the floor of the temple?

Did the apostles and Jesus set at a table for the last supper? Was that the tradition in first century Judea?

 

Someone else enjoyed the Passion Movie........Yasser Arafat:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1079770576238

 

MalkyEl quoted:

18 And as they *reclined* and ate, Jesus said, Truly I say to you, One of you will betray Me, the one eating with Me.


S&T:

So Malky, how does one recline at a table? Say it isn't so that Mels historically and scripturally accurate true to the Gospels movie missed another detail. Is anyone keeping count? [ couldn't be Baptist leadership]

 

Oh.....ok....so then...."Jesus" didn't invent the upright table as shown in the movie, and it was the custom in first century Palestine to have a low table near the floor where people could sit on cushions or stretch out like they still do in parts of the middle east today. Thanks for the clarification They must have consulted the guy's paintings that showed them all sitting at an upright table during the last supper. Wasn't that the same guy who painted a picture of "Jesus" being "sprinkled" by John the Baptist?

 

We have discussed briefly the "one eyed" Jesus in the movie. Has anybody seen this:
http://www.midwestaugustinians.org/saintsc_annemmerich.html

Notice the "one eye" and the pyramid over her casting it's rays of "enlightenment". And to think that people on the board accused me of trying to create a conspiracy. [ the Catholic church termed her a "mystic"] I was looking "real" close, and I though I saw her reading a Harry Potter book.

 

CRUCIFIX OR THE CROSS? THEOLOGICAL DIFFERENCES & DOES MEL HAVE A CLUE?

http://www.etherzone.com/2004/nath031904.shtml

 

SS said:

Hi There Spirit and Truth. Being new I don't know who believes what. But it does seem like you have a sense of humor. I enjoy that in a person.

S&T:

I have to maintain my humor level, otherwise I will focus on all of the luke warm religiosity that floats around here sometimes and I will become saddened. I just attempt to speak the Truth the best that I know it, and then offer proof of my statements. Some will hear, and others refuse to. I am glad that in the end, I am not the one who judges someones fate.