No place in Scripture demonstrates a commonly available relationship with The Father or with Christ to consist of any knowledge or any experience beyond what God and Christ have chosen to reveal about themselves in Scripture. Since Scripture is both the complete revelation of The Father and Christ for this dispensation and is the Standard for Truth, anything beyond Scripture will tell us nothing more about The Father and Christ than what is in Scripture. Adam, Enoch, Abraham, Melchizadek, Moses, Isaiah, Ezekiel, David, The Apostles, and other Prophets of Scripture may have indeed possessed far more knowledge of God than we do, but we can never think to actually be of the same or greater than their pedigree and appointment as they were before God. We can only know about The Father and about Christ. If one thinks they do actually "know God" or "know Christ" then they should be easily able to clearly state what they know about The Father and about Christ beyond what is disclosed in Scripture.