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It Was 40 Years Ago Today... Sgt. Pepper

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  1. Botfield

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    Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band by The Beatles is 40 years old today.

    Regarded by many as the greatest rock album of all time, Sgt. Pepper has sold 32 million copies since its release and been credited with being the most influential rock album of all time.
     
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    Well gee, I didn't know that. And I didn't make provision for a special holiday with a big cake and champaign and confetti. I'll just have to do my best.
     
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    me neither, but this is fitting as I had absolutely NO idea about what many of their songs were really about . . .
     
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    Familiarize yourself with the works of Aleister Crowley and you'll get a better idea.
     
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    Some say the songs were about drugs, marijuana, booze.
    Some say no.

    Me. I just like the songs, and I don't much care if it alludes to drugs, marijuana, or booze because I can't change the world.

    I like "Strawberry Fields Forever", "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", and I think "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is also in that album. Not sure, though.
     
  6. Botfield

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    Crowley was an occultist, The Beatles were not, so I'm at a loss to the point you're trying to make?

    Were some of their songs about drugs? Probably. But songs like Eleanor Rigby, Yesterday, Help!, Ticket to Ride and Something are some of the most beautiful ever written and they have certainly stood the test of time.
     
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    Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Released - 1967

    "It was twenty years ago today,
    Sgt. Pepper taught the band to play"... ​

    Aleister Crowley death - 1947
     
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    John Lennon was a liar, a false prophet, encouraging others to "imagine, no posessions" while he died being worth $802 million.

    I like Paul McCartney's songs OK, I do have a couple of Beatles' records, mostly their mop-top love songs, when the drugs kicked in they went over my head. This album is drugs.

    I never knew why people worship their movie & pop stars,putting way more creedance into how they live & what they say than scripture. I have actually heard Christians tell me John Lennon's ideas, contrary to scripture as they are, would lead to a better world. You know, a better world, where he lived like a king & the rest were peasants.
     
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    Now, that is way over my head, too, bro.

    "Imagine" was a song I took off my list of favorites a short while after I became a Baptist.
     
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    Some people never cease to amaze me! :BangHead:
     
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    Certain U.S. "evangelists" (Jacob Aranza for one) have made much of Crowley's image being included in the montage of celebs in the Sgt. Pepper album cover. They single out Crowley because they want to build a guilt-by-association case against the Beatles to try to get people to believe that if they listen to Beatles music, they will be brainwashed into involving themselves in the occult. This kind of wild theory is often tied into the idea that the Beatles used backward masking of secret messages to influence the masses, and that backward masking is effective as a means of mind control.
     
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    There's even Christians that use that Lennon music in their missions slideshows. I'd post the youtube link but the video appears to have been taken down so here's a descriptor...

     
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    This is for the scoffers...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P2dE-4AkdY

    About 6:50 into the video. (They even manage to get the "no religion" line into the clip)
     
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    John Lennon said...."Come together......yeah"

    God says...."be ye seperate."
     
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    The Beatles described the people on the cover of that album as being their "heroes" and "people they like and admire".

    We don't have to focus on the satanist Crowley, though I would think that would be enough to realize this music isn't angelic. How about Karl Marx, Marlene Dietrich, Sigmund Freud and Adolph Hitler? Ought these people to be heroes and worthy of admiration? Ought we be entertained by individuals that admire these people?
     
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    You beat me to it Rufus, was just reading the who's who of the cover.

    Oh well, I guess John was right after all, they are more popular than Jesus....:eek:
     
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    Crowley was an occultist but (as I stated before) The Beatles were not. John Lennon said a lot of things (many of which I disagree with), but he often didn't mean them. Is Crowley on the cover of Sgt. Pepper? I don't remember. But John also wanted to put Jesus on and was banned from doing so by EMI.

    John wasn't a liar or a hypocrite. Yes he was rich, but money isn't the problem, it's what you do with it. Remember Paul to Timothy? The LOVE of money is the root of all evil.

    I do like Lennon's music, but I would not and do not put him or The Beatles above Jesus Christ and The Bible. However, it doesn't stop me listening to something other than hymns!
     
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    Sweet, thanks for the list. Add Huxley and Wells to the occultists group.

    This one is interesting as well...

    Speaking of Jesus, it would appear He didn't make the cut...guess they don't admire Him or consider him to be a hero.

     
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    I think far too many Christians get hung up on what pop stars do and think everyone should only listen to the church choir. Not all rock and pop music is bad, and if you think that you are seriously misled.

    So you don't like The Beatles? I do, as do millions of other Christians and we haven't taken to Satanism or reading Tarot cards.

    Just get a bit of perspective on this. It might come as a shock, but Jesus doesn't just save fundamental Baptists! :) (I speak as someone who attends a Fundamental Baptist church).
     
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    He said a lot of things but he often didn't mean them? How did you determine this? Will you provide me an index of the things that Lennon said and meant and the things he said and didn't mean so that I might better understand his worldview?
     
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